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SPEAKER 1
Hi, I'm Jen Rubin, Editor-in-Chief of The Contrarian. I'm delighted to welcome back former Illinois Congressman Adam Kinzinger. Talk to us a little bit about what a repudiation of American values, of basic facts it was to hear Donald Trump really spilling Russian propaganda about the invasion of Ukraine and being prepared, apparently, to negotiate away their sovereignty.
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It's even worse than that. I'm hearing today that French media is reporting that the U.S. is looking at suspending war crime prosecutions or investigations of war crimes by Russia. And there's also rumor out there fairly strong that Trump has been invited and is considering accepting going to the Moscow Victory Day parade.
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There's nothing, frankly, more pro-Soviet than doing that. Look, here's the reality of it. We spent, you know, a lot of blood and treasure, obviously, in World War II. And we lost, coincidentally, half as many people as Russia has lost in Ukraine, by the way. So we liberated an entire continent and took down an empire with that.

Jen Rubin and Adam Kinzinger discuss the stark divergence that the Trump administration has taken from previous U.S. Presidents when dealing with Russian foreign relations.

Adam Kinzinger is a former (a word he relishes) member of Congress from Illinois and was one of two Republican members who sat on the January 6th Committee. Make sure to keep up with Adam on his own Substack here.