PERFECT! I WILL DONATE ANOTHER $100 NOW TO UKRAINE, MAKING MY DONATION TODAY $300. THANK YOU FOR ACTING! YOU HAVE DONE WHAT A REAL AMERICAN DOES: NOT JUS TALK, BUT ACT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH!! YOU ARE FANTASTIC, AND I'M SURE THAT YOUR DONATION WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE: JUST SEEING YOUR COMMITMENT IN BLACK AND WHITE IS SPURRING OTHERS TO DONATE!
I just tried (8:30pm Mountain Time) and it went through with no problem. I hope the fact that so many of us are doing this TODAY tells Zelensky how ashamed we are of our official representatives, and how inspired we are by Zelensky--who has more guts than most of our elected representatives. Some news articles have said that Trump and Vance "embarrassed Zelensky"--NO! They embarrassed themselves, and in some way all Americans. Zelensky is a true mensch.
It's really clear and easy to use as it appears on my screen. There's a yellow DONATE NOW button in the upper right-hand corner of the front page of the site and it takes you through the process. I use a card, not Paypal because I FUCKING HATE PETER THIEL, who owns Paypal.
How about we give generously to Ukraine. And then let’s all go and buy a stack of postage-paid postcards and start a letter-writing campaign to President Musk and VP Krasnov. Don’t say anything threatening. Just a day-by-day brutally honest assessments of their behavior. This was an ambush and you know it is just the beginning. If you have rethuglican Congress Critters, let them know just how horrible their president’s behavior is. Many of them have supported Ukraine. They can’t be happy with this.
While I appreciate your enthusiasm about writing postcards, writing them to the Prez and VP is a waste of time and money.
Hook yourself up with "Tony the Democrat" or "act blue" and write postcards that matter
There currently is a race for a Wisconsin Supreme Court seat and Muskrat has donated a considerable amount of money to the Republican candidate. Writing postcards to support the Democrat is something that can actually have a positive effect. If she is elected, the Democratic majority can start the redistricting process and possibly add two or three democratic seats to the US house.
Sadly, 85% of the conservative voters who elected our current rulers watch FOX News, which has spent more than a decade puffing up Russia as some sort of hyper-masculine, anti-Woke, Christian, free-market paradise. Which is actually a misogynistic, vodka-addled dictatorship with triple the US abortion rate, that anyone with half a brain desperately wants to escape.
So when Trump recently spouted KGB talking points, like "..it was actually Ukraine that attacked Russia"--conservatives believe such drivel, because that's how FOX News spins it to them.
YES!! THIS WAS AN AMBUSH AND IT'S DISGUSTING: THE SLIMY ORANGE TURD IS PUTIN'S BITCH. HE SHOULD BE TRIED AND CONVICTED OF TREASON. HE IS MUCH WORSE THAN BENEDICT ARNOLD. NATHAN HALE DIED FOR THIS COUNTRY; THE TURD IS MAKING $$$$$$ KILLING PEOPLE IN UKRAINE AND HERE IN THIS COUNTRY BY ELIMINATING HEALTH CARE, VACCINES, VETERANS' CARE AND THE SUICIDE HOT LINE (!!!!!!), AND SUPPORT FOR THE POOR AND ELDERLY IN SS, MEDICAID, AND SSI.
At least he isn't calling people with insulting epithets like amathés, aischrourgòs, androkàpraina, aphòdeuma, bdelyròs, ghastròdes and other insults in ancient Greek. (Yeah, I had to look them up. I am barely fluent in my native language. https://karavansara.live/2018/05/30/ancient-greek-insults-a-primer/ )
THANK YOU. I AM CONSUMED WITH RAGE AT THE SLIMY ORANGE TURD, WHO IS A TRAITOR AND SHOULD BE TRIED FOR TREASON BECAUSE HE'S PUTIN'S BITCH. I SAW LOTS OF "LIKES" FOR MY COMMENTS BUT NO ACTIONS AND IT MADE ME SICK.
THANK YOU. IT'S TIME TO ACT, AND I AM HAPPY TO SCREAM UNTIL PEOPLE WAKE UP AND REALIZE THAT THE SLIMY ORANGE TURD IS PUTIN'S BITCH AND GUILTY OF TREASON. HE SHOULD BE TRIED FOR TREASON.
IF YOU HAD READ EVEN ONE PAGE OF PLATO YOU'D KNOW WHAT SOCRATES DOES AND AND HOW VICIOUS PLATO WAS TO ASSHOLES LIKE EUTHYPHRO, THRASYMACHUS, AND OTHERS.
Thank you, Mike Guiffre. I strongly believe that whatever our opinions, our strong feelings and our suggestions are, we can express them with appropriate language. I appreciate that you spoke out for exactly what is needed and what is appreciated. I also appreciate every person who posts comments using appropriate language. Doing so is much more meaningful.
This is a great idea, but please wait until after midnight to donate, as it's important not to undercut the econimic blackout, and one element of that is to not use credit cards.
You are sounding a lot like Trump did today. You have NO IDEA what other people are doing!!! Just because they like one of your comments does not mean that is ALL they did that day.
TELL ME WHAT YOU'VE DONE THIS WEEK FOR DEMOCRACY. I HAVE
1. DONATED TO UKRAINE
2. WORKED 3 PHONE BANKS IN WISCONSIN AND FLORIDA FOR 2 HOURS EACH
3. WRITTEN 50 POSTCARDS FOR WISCONSIN
4, TEXTED FOR BLACK VOTERS MATTER
5. POSTED INFORMATION AND ENCOURAGEMENT ON BLUESKY FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTUALLY DOING SOMETHING
6. GOING IN THE MORNING TO A TESLA PROTEST NEAR ME, JOINING OTHER SENIORS WHO ARE IN OUR 70S, 80S, AND 90S. MADE MY SIGN, HAVE AMERICAN FLAGS TO GIVE OUT.
Let's see: had a letter published in the paper, made the 5 calls, emailed 500 people about today's economic boycott and more...I only answered to gain the cred to say that bullying is a weak man's game. There are far better ways to motivate people.
You do know, I assume, that ‘doing for Democracy' is as much a steady and often quiet every day state of mind as it is any one or another action. It is as much about understanding and believing in this most extraordinary, most crucial, riskiest, and most complex experiment in human government ever attempted as it is about shouting about it from the rooftops.
Attacking each other helps the opposition. Kindness, empathy, and respect are better. Your approach mirrors trump, musk, and the magas. Please avoid vitriol.
I completely understand your anger and frustration with the lack of tangible action in the non-Republican world. We need to be feeling our hair on fire, not resting in our comfort, privilege, and imagined safety. I appreciate you challenging people to WAKE UP. Hard decisions for people to make, and good for you for reminding everyone they have agency and choices. Thank you.
IT'S SCARY BECAUSE WE NOW ARE RULED BY AN ASSHOLE WHO IS PUTIN'S BITCH AND HE HAS COMMANDED HIS MINIONS TO ELIMINATE ALL CYBER INVESTIGATIONS INTO RUSSIAN ACTIVITIES, ALL FOREIGN INFLUENCE IN THIS COUNTRY, AND MORE (BONDI'S FIRST DAY). WE ARE NOW AN EXTENSION OF PUTIN'S RUSSIA.
THANK YOU. I AM YELLING BECAUSE I SAW NO ONE ON HERE DOING A FUCKING THING EXCEPT LIKING POSTS. THAT IS NOT POLITICAL ACTION; THAT IS NOT BEING AN AMERICAN WITH INTEGRITY!
Donated $100. Thanks for yelling and suggesting we do something practical. This was a shakedown of Ukraine. Zelenskyy was right. No security guarantees.
The arrogance of these people - Trump and Vance and all of his choices for cabinet positions! ! I stand with Zelinski!! These fools in and around the White House. So angry. I can’t stand it. Somebody do something
Me too. 80 years old on pension.' But I gave a small amount, not thinking the amount will make a difference, but the FACT of doing it will be part of what I hope will be a tsunami of donations, so that the roar of the people here who are NOT endorsing Trump and Vance, but are SUPPORTING Zelensky will be heard!
I am heartbroken for this country as I watched a true hero, Volodymyr Zelensky, endure beratement and dismissal at the hands of two bullies. Zelensky, a leader and ally to the United States, has demonstrated immense courage, even expressing his willingness to step down from his presidency if it means securing peace for his nation. Yet, he was met with hostility and disrespect by individuals more focused on power and self-interest than on global security and democratic values.
The press conference was a disgrace, an embarrassment to the United States. Our leadership is not strengthened by deception, manipulation, or bullying—it is weakened, leaving us vulnerable to those eager to exploit a fragile ego and self-serving ambitions. This is not about politics; this is about character. We teach our children not to lie, bully, or humiliate others, yet that is exactly what our president embodies and promotes.
While members of the GOP continue to prioritize their careers over the integrity of this nation, President Zelensky sat with dignity, enduring humiliation and abuse for the sake of his country. His honor stood in stark contrast to the disgraceful display of our leadership—a new low in our nation’s history.
Yeah. It's almost like there are two kinds of people in the world.... I find myself wondering how this awful capability of the human animal didn't lead to our extinction a zillion years ago. I also find myself loathing how hateful I have become.
If I may rise to your defense, I think you may be confusing hatred with contempt.
I feel nothing but contempt for Trump, for his eyeliner-wearing sidekick, his many apologists and wormtongues because they're arrogant bullies who think they not only own the playground, but deserve it. The history of the world shows that those kind of people will simply take anything they like if they're not resisted. So we resist. I believe that to be right action. Hope that helps.
I agree there are different people in terms of awareness,empathy emotions that make divisions. I do not loathe myself for hating the evil. I use that term now.
That's the perfect description, Diana! Both Trump and Vance will NEVER be as a big a man as Zelenskyy is. I think JD was just taking advantage of this opportunity to play big man on campus while President Musk is out of the room. This was nothing but performative assholery from both of them.
Please stop repeating the Goebbels-like lie in calling Musk 'president'. He isn't and we didn't elect him. We did however, make a supreme error in electing Trump.
Except for Elmo himself, I don't think anybody really believes he's president. But that doesn't change the fact that in the ways that count, he's clearly running the show in this White House. And that's disgraceful. As you rightfully point out, nobody voted for that jackass. He has no business doing any of the things he's doing. But not one person, Trump included, will do a damned thing to stop him.
It's easy not to recognize sarcasm in posts. I'll try to remember to put an '/s' after future sarcastic posts.
I think it was. I don't believe Trump ever had any intention of signing a deal with Ukraine because that would have forced him to side with Ukraine over Russia, and his boss in Moscow wouldn't allow it.
It would have been a lot easier not to have elected them in the first place. Getting rid is going to be a lot harder and will take longer still. Many people were very short-sighted.
This reflects an unengaged, ignorant electorate. They have to feel the pain and think more deeply about the country. We cannot have a democracy, and will not, if this continues.
Michelle. I share your well stated ideas and feelings. Thank you for expressing them so well. It seems that everyone should agree and that official, Constitutionsl steps should be taken in proper ways by the people we pay to to represent us. I hope they all will. If anyone had a doubt before today, I do not see how they could doubt now. Since not one person can be proud of the behaviors we have witnessed, it seems that the proper, legal steps should be taken soon. We are not a country of bullies. Our citizens and our children deserve to see people who are not bullies representing us.
3 bullies: the “reporter” who asked about his attire. And it’s obvious Zelensky was a good comedian, he answered them without giving an inch. And in a language that’s not his first language.
BTW, “costume” is what several languages call what men wear when they think they’re not wearing anything but what they’re supposed to.
I have some meaningful words that can be written on those postcards. Send out one each day over the next 20 days: moron, cheat, liar, narcissist, evil, loser, rapist, felon, asshole, immigrant, snake oil salesman, antagonist, vile, stupid, pig, baby, womanizer, gold digger, orange asshole, dictator, racist, idiot, psychopathic liar, immoral, sexual predator, ugly, and once more for good measure, loser!!!
I am wondering. Would name calling, however fitting the names are, have any effect on a bully who revels in name-calling other people? It seems that raising ire might be part of the intent.
Nancy Karan, I understand those feelings for sure! Thanks for helping me let off my own steam by reading your shared frustration and whatever the right word is. I know that my scolding them while watching the video does no good either, but it helps me and possibly lowered the blood pressure, too. Sharing here also helps. Until I found so many good people responding, including you, I felt horrible. I still do, but the good company and varied reactions make a needed difference.
That is a fucking insulting way to ask people for donations. you are assuming no one is donating or has donated. your attitude doesn't improve things. Go away.
You can go to President Zelenskyy's initiative United24. There are a jillion things you can donate to --- everything from armored personnel carriers, drones, incubators, battlesite life-saving equipment, rebuilding projects, demining, you name it.
Given that you have no idea who has done what, that you are currently in the throes of an ongoing, out-of-control outburst, that said outburst is not not an effective way to encourage folks to part with their money -- and that the goal is to actually support the people of Ukraine -- I strongly suggest you take a long break from this thread and go do A LOT of deep breathing until you can rein yourself in and return with some productive messaging.
Philosopher. I'm going to stretch this out and still think you are a reasonable person. . . . I've given all I can and if they take away my social security, I'll come and pitch a tent on your porch.
GOOD FOR YOU! I DON'T HAVE A PORCH BECAUSE I LIVE IN A SMALL CONDO, BUT HEY--SHOW UP. I AM VERY WORRIED ABOUT THOSE WHO LIVE ON SOCIAL SECURITY AND THAT'S FUELING MY IMMENSE ANGER RIGHT NOW--ALONG WITH FEARS FOR THE KIDS WHO WILL DIE OF MEASLES, FLU, COVID, AND UNTREATED CANCERS AFTER WHAT THE HHS IS DOING.
GOOD! I AM SO FULL OF FURY AT PEOPLE WHO SIT BACK AND COMMENT BUT DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING NOW, WHEN IT'S ESSENTIAL FOR EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US TO ACT AND TO DONATE IF WE CAN!! I AM PRACTICALLY BANKRUPTING MYSELF WITH DONATIONS BECAUSE THERE IS SO MUCH TERRIBLE NEED. EVERY PERSON WHO LETS OTHERS DO THE WORK, THINKING THAT THE TROUBLES WILL NEVER AFFECT HER/HIM/THEM IS PART OF THE PROBLEM AT THIS POINT.
Thank you Philosopher for your fervor. We appreciate your enthusiasm, but we do not allow name calling in this community as we do not believe it fosters productive dialogue or discourse.
Do I have to report each single comment by this "philosopher" or will you take a look at all of them? These endless insults and name-calling is really not acceptable.
It says, in your bio you're a retired Greek philosophy teacher. Did you encourage your students to speak like this? Have some respect for others and leave out the four letter words...
Zelensky held his own!!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 I heard Zelensky walked out! They didn't kick him out. I'm sure that's what the 🍊🤡 said happened though. I STAND with Ukraine!!! ❤️🇺🇦
We elected them. With the help of the 40% or so who chose not to vote. This is now who we are. No honor, no compassion, no truth. We are at a low point in the history of our once-great nation and poised to go still lower.
NO, IT IS NOT! There are more of us non-trump voters speaking out, and acting against the 3 bullies in charge - trump/vance/musk - we will NOT be bullied into shutting up, cowering in fear, listening to evil men who take our speech away! He can't force us to shut up, just like he's not forced Zelensky to shut up! Not even a good attempt, you lyin' SOS! Europe will stand with Ukraine, US will too!
This is true. But "we" includes all of us. And a small plurality of those of us who chose to vote elected these creatures. Who now represent us, despicable as they so clearly are. But we do need to remember, difficult as that may be for so many of us. And resist? Definitely.
Decidedly not, James. More people voted for someone else than voted for Trump. He's only parking his fat ass in our White House because of the vestigial organ known as the electoral college.
Jane, what you say is true, but Agent Orange won a small plurality of the popular vote, it wasn't just the Electoral College that put him where he is. Unlike 2016. Unfortunately, he and the sewer rats that now populate his Cabinet (or is it Musk's Cabinet?) now represent us before the world. Those of us who still believe in the principles stated in our founding documents now have the duty to oppose and resist this utterly repellent regime. (Of course, "regime" is the word we use to describe any government we don't like, including our own.)
From the perspective of someone from the land Down Under who has studied and read a lot on US law snd history, that someone like Trump is in power today is due to the meeting in Independence Hall in the summer of 1787. These 55 men produced what was then and remains a flawed Constitution. That Americans still revere it is mind-boggling.
The Constitution was never meant to stay as written. The Framers knew they were writing a document for their times, but they added an amendment process to allow it to grow and change with later times and civil society demands. The electoral college is one of vestigial elements of the Constitution that's not only unnecessary, but in many cases has resulted in actual harm to the country. All that said, it remains an impressive document.
The most pathetic, shameful, disgusting display of orchestrated, made-for-trash TV bullying ever to have soiled the Oval Office.
And I thought nothing could make me feel even more contempt for the Felon-in-Chief and his Maybellined Mini-Me Boy sidekick. "A day that will live in infamy" for the United States of America....
It’s increasingly impossible to deny Trump is Putin’s operative - astounding given that Russia is a mafia state that offers nothing any foreign business or other country wants. Maybe the deal is Putin will use nukes to gain control of all former Soviet bloc states, and Trump will get his rare earth minerals that way. The extent of Trump’s betrayal of Ukraine and western democracies is hard to overstate.
You are right. He is reported to have been a Russian plant since the 1980's. I thought so when he was in office before, without these reports. He is not even trying to hide it anymore. He is a TRAITOR! There has to be a way to remove him from office because of this betrayal.
There's another element to today's televised Show of Disgrace that most Americans may not understand. This loop will be re-broadcast on Russian State TV 1 over and over again, endlessly repeated to drive home the "point" that Americans no longer support Zelensky.
Don't think for a second Donald Trump isn't aware of this, or that this was some kind of spontaneous show of anger. It was not. It was all *carefully planned* probably with JD Shady Lady setting the honey trap as a pretext for an orchestrated show of idiotic bullying and lying by the Liar-in-Chief.
As our former Speaker once said in 2019, "all roads with you end with Putin." Whether money or pee-pee tapes or being a recruit since the 1980s, or something else or all of the above --- one day we may find out. No longer any doubt for me, however.
I seriously wonder if trump and his nasty handlers will be in office long enough to get those spoils. Trump is betting the ranch that he can drag the USA into the status of a failed state from which he will make money. So it depends on what removes the gaslighting glasses from people's eyes.
We cannot wait until 2028. Trump is laying the groundwork to remain in office for a third term. We must regain both the House and Senate in 2026 to slow this travesty down until we elect a democrat to the White House in 2028.
You can bet your bottom dollar it was planned and orchestrated. Little JD set a honey trap -- this was about as spontaneous as the German invasion of Poland in 1939.
Planned for sure to be televised so Putin can show across his airways. Disgusting display of childish bullies. Perhaps if tRump had given the money to Zelensky instead of trying to force him to investigate Biden this war would be much different and perhaps over. So glad my Dad is not alive to see what the USA that he fought so proudly to protect has become.
I'm thinking you're right, although I'm thinking Vance also started the shouting to rev up the instinctual nastiness of his boss and keep it whipped up.
There is no doubt in my mind that this was planned. In the pea-brained mind of the President bullying is the only way to get his way. Unless it isn’t. This was nothing more than “bad-cop, bad-cop”.
Not only that, but unless we have the scale of funds like a federal government does, we are sadly not going to offset trump's clear plan to abandon Ukraine financially. What we CAN do is dial up our opposition, put real pressure on our Congressional reps to step up and resist strongly, and see how Europe responds to this grotesque expression of Ugly America.
Nobody wants you to beg, but it would be helpful if YOU stepped up and behaved with the decency you expect of others. You undermine your own ask when you behave in the way you've been doing throughout the comments section. And your anger is hardly an excuse for your abusive behavior.
And given your training and your current professional affiliations, I would strongly encourage you to rethink your strategy.
"Grotesque" is a light way to put it; it was very hard to watch. The way Trump and Vance, both Russian puppets, treated President Zelenskyy, is completely abhorrent. It was nothing but bullying and the demands of man-children for respect they've done nothing to deserve.
I just watched the fiasco at the White House with Zelensky, Trump and Vance.
Never have I been so embarrassed for my country.
Never have I felt such shame to be a US citizen.
Zelensky was right to walk out after being treated so ignobly by what purports to be leadership in our country.
Then I read about what occurred previous to the meeting with Trump when enabler Lyndsey Graham said, “This is Donald Trump the dealmaker and peacemaker on display."
If Congress, particularly Republicans in Congress, don’t stand up and condemn this farce who is impersonating the leader of our country for the outrageous incompetence that he is, I have no hope for our country and I’m too old to start learning Russian. I stand with Ukraine.
I am not embarrassed to be an American, but I am embarrassed by Trump and Vance's attempt to humiliate Zelensky--which is backfiring spectacularly. I am also embarrassed that enough of my fellow Americans insanely voted for the Trump-Vance ticket. As Republicans in Congress underwent spinalectomies, I do not expect any pushback from that group.
WTH??? I am embarrassed by America, Trump, Vance, and musk! I truly hope Zelensky and the world know that most Americans do not agree with our current,unfortunate, administration.
And lil’Rubio sitting there like a deer in the headlights. Guess that is what happens when your sell your soul to the devil. This was an embarrassing moment for our country.
I was also wondering about the "absence" everywhere of the American Secretary of State. The only honorable thing Rubio can do is resign and then explain why he resigned. And no, family will not be tolerated as a reason.
I have never been so ashamed of a United States President and Vice President. Trump and Vance disgraced us on the national stage today from our White House. Trump has always touted the "Art of The Deal." Obvious he never read the book that his ghostwriter wrote.
You still haven't got it if you think Trump is just an irrational man-child. He is an agent of Putin, a thug installed by the Kremlin in the White House. That fits all the facts. Why he would tell Starmer America won't protect the U.K if attacked by Russia with nuclear weapons, why he would bully Zelensky to make peace on Putin's terms and also give Trump (and his cronies) a piece of the cake. Trump is a full-blown, thorough-going traitor who has sold out his country.
I stand with Zelensky
I stand with Zelensky.
THEN FUCKING DONATE TO
https://u24.gov.ua/
Done pledged $50– who is with me?
Donated $100.
Done. Contributed $100.
PERFECT! I WILL DONATE ANOTHER $100 NOW TO UKRAINE, MAKING MY DONATION TODAY $300. THANK YOU FOR ACTING! YOU HAVE DONE WHAT A REAL AMERICAN DOES: NOT JUS TALK, BUT ACT.
DONE: THAT'S $300 TODAY.
I did pledge 200...why not...! they deserve it more than me,,,sitting on my warm couch starring with SHOCK at CNN
THANK YOU SO MUCH!! YOU ARE FANTASTIC, AND I'M SURE THAT YOUR DONATION WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE: JUST SEEING YOUR COMMITMENT IN BLACK AND WHITE IS SPURRING OTHERS TO DONATE!
I'm still trying to get through. The server may be overwhelmed. All I get the splash screen as it tries to load.
I tried to donate 50 but declined. Perhaps overwhelmed. I'll try tomorrow.
I just tried (8:30pm Mountain Time) and it went through with no problem. I hope the fact that so many of us are doing this TODAY tells Zelensky how ashamed we are of our official representatives, and how inspired we are by Zelensky--who has more guts than most of our elected representatives. Some news articles have said that Trump and Vance "embarrassed Zelensky"--NO! They embarrassed themselves, and in some way all Americans. Zelensky is a true mensch.
THANK YOU FOR TRYING! I HOPE YOU CAN DONATE TOMORROW.
try really late or very early
Same here
THANK YOU FOR TRYING AND I HOPE YOU WILL BE ABLE TO GET THROUGH TOMORROW!
Will do
SO GOOD! EVERY GESTURE, EVERY DOLLAR STATES OUR COMMITMENT TO DECENCY AND LOVE OF DEMOCRACY.
ANY TIPS ON THE SITE? TYING TO DONATE
It's really clear and easy to use as it appears on my screen. There's a yellow DONATE NOW button in the upper right-hand corner of the front page of the site and it takes you through the process. I use a card, not Paypal because I FUCKING HATE PETER THIEL, who owns Paypal.
THANK YOU FOR TRYING!! YOU ARE TERRIFIC FOR WORKING ON DOING YOUR PART!
pledged monthly
WOW: GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND! YOU ARE A FINE EXAMPLE OF DEDICATION TO US ALL!!
I’ve donated before and will again
How about we give generously to Ukraine. And then let’s all go and buy a stack of postage-paid postcards and start a letter-writing campaign to President Musk and VP Krasnov. Don’t say anything threatening. Just a day-by-day brutally honest assessments of their behavior. This was an ambush and you know it is just the beginning. If you have rethuglican Congress Critters, let them know just how horrible their president’s behavior is. Many of them have supported Ukraine. They can’t be happy with this.
While I appreciate your enthusiasm about writing postcards, writing them to the Prez and VP is a waste of time and money.
Hook yourself up with "Tony the Democrat" or "act blue" and write postcards that matter
There currently is a race for a Wisconsin Supreme Court seat and Muskrat has donated a considerable amount of money to the Republican candidate. Writing postcards to support the Democrat is something that can actually have a positive effect. If she is elected, the Democratic majority can start the redistricting process and possibly add two or three democratic seats to the US house.
Sadly, 85% of the conservative voters who elected our current rulers watch FOX News, which has spent more than a decade puffing up Russia as some sort of hyper-masculine, anti-Woke, Christian, free-market paradise. Which is actually a misogynistic, vodka-addled dictatorship with triple the US abortion rate, that anyone with half a brain desperately wants to escape.
So when Trump recently spouted KGB talking points, like "..it was actually Ukraine that attacked Russia"--conservatives believe such drivel, because that's how FOX News spins it to them.
YES!! THIS WAS AN AMBUSH AND IT'S DISGUSTING: THE SLIMY ORANGE TURD IS PUTIN'S BITCH. HE SHOULD BE TRIED AND CONVICTED OF TREASON. HE IS MUCH WORSE THAN BENEDICT ARNOLD. NATHAN HALE DIED FOR THIS COUNTRY; THE TURD IS MAKING $$$$$$ KILLING PEOPLE IN UKRAINE AND HERE IN THIS COUNTRY BY ELIMINATING HEALTH CARE, VACCINES, VETERANS' CARE AND THE SUICIDE HOT LINE (!!!!!!), AND SUPPORT FOR THE POOR AND ELDERLY IN SS, MEDICAID, AND SSI.
Please stop shouting with the ALL CAPS. It is what Trump does. Thank you.
I like this idea since my "representatives" are Cruz, Cornyn, and Arrington.
This MSNBC article notes how effective rickrolling is becoming in DJT II. https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/trump-musk-ai-feet-video-resistance-humor-rcna193861
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR STANDING UP FOR UKRAINE! YOU HAVE TRULY PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS, AND I DEEPLY APPRECIATE YOUR DEDICATION!
You don't need to yell at us
YES I DO.
Please don't. I respect your strong feelings, but for me, comments blur blur and lose attention when typed in all caps.
Unfortunately, some of us have to pay bills and eat.
No worries, nmgirl.
Everyone does what they can and it's important.
YES: AND SO DO I. THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS I'M NOT DOING BECAUSE I DONATE SO MUCH, INCLUDING DRIVING A 24-YEAR-OLD CAR INSTEAD OF BUYING ANOTHER ONE.
This reminds me of a Monty Python skit, a competition…
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VAdlkunflRs
geeeeeesss, seriously?
Philosopher, would Plato have yelled like this? If you were having an actual discussion around a table with us would you be as bossy? Back off.
At least he isn't calling people with insulting epithets like amathés, aischrourgòs, androkàpraina, aphòdeuma, bdelyròs, ghastròdes and other insults in ancient Greek. (Yeah, I had to look them up. I am barely fluent in my native language. https://karavansara.live/2018/05/30/ancient-greek-insults-a-primer/ )
YOUR ACCENTS ARE ALL WRONG.
I AM FEMALE.
(Taking notes)
I took it as a rallying cry, and honestly really appreciated the kick in the pants.
THANK YOU. I AM CONSUMED WITH RAGE AT THE SLIMY ORANGE TURD, WHO IS A TRAITOR AND SHOULD BE TRIED FOR TREASON BECAUSE HE'S PUTIN'S BITCH. I SAW LOTS OF "LIKES" FOR MY COMMENTS BUT NO ACTIONS AND IT MADE ME SICK.
Same.
THANK YOU. IT'S TIME TO ACT, AND I AM HAPPY TO SCREAM UNTIL PEOPLE WAKE UP AND REALIZE THAT THE SLIMY ORANGE TURD IS PUTIN'S BITCH AND GUILTY OF TREASON. HE SHOULD BE TRIED FOR TREASON.
IF YOU HAD READ EVEN ONE PAGE OF PLATO YOU'D KNOW WHAT SOCRATES DOES AND AND HOW VICIOUS PLATO WAS TO ASSHOLES LIKE EUTHYPHRO, THRASYMACHUS, AND OTHERS.
Not kind, Sir or Madam! A suggestion with the link (for which I am grateful) is all that was needed.
NOPE. NOT WHEN WE ARE WATCHING ZELENSKYY ABUSED IN THE OVAL OFFICE BY A FUCKING TRAITOR, AND HIS COUNTRY SACRIFICED TO THAT TRAITOR'S LOVER PUTIN.
Thank you, Mike Guiffre. I strongly believe that whatever our opinions, our strong feelings and our suggestions are, we can express them with appropriate language. I appreciate that you spoke out for exactly what is needed and what is appreciated. I also appreciate every person who posts comments using appropriate language. Doing so is much more meaningful.
NOPE. WHAT IS MEANINGFUL IS NOT MINCING AROUND AND COMPLAINING ABOUT USING NAUGHTY WORDS. WHAT IS MEANINGFUL, IN THIS CRISIS, IS ACTION. PERIOD.
This is a great idea, but please wait until after midnight to donate, as it's important not to undercut the econimic blackout, and one element of that is to not use credit cards.
Donating to Ukraine is not undercutting the economic boycott.
Already have...and Stork. Cool it a little bit?
You are sounding a lot like Trump did today. You have NO IDEA what other people are doing!!! Just because they like one of your comments does not mean that is ALL they did that day.
SO TELL ME ALL ABOUT WHAT YOU HAVE DONE FOR DEMOCRACY THIS WEEK.
stop yelling...... you sound like PINO and vance
TELL ME WHAT YOU'VE DONE THIS WEEK FOR DEMOCRACY. I HAVE
1. DONATED TO UKRAINE
2. WORKED 3 PHONE BANKS IN WISCONSIN AND FLORIDA FOR 2 HOURS EACH
3. WRITTEN 50 POSTCARDS FOR WISCONSIN
4, TEXTED FOR BLACK VOTERS MATTER
5. POSTED INFORMATION AND ENCOURAGEMENT ON BLUESKY FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTUALLY DOING SOMETHING
6. GOING IN THE MORNING TO A TESLA PROTEST NEAR ME, JOINING OTHER SENIORS WHO ARE IN OUR 70S, 80S, AND 90S. MADE MY SIGN, HAVE AMERICAN FLAGS TO GIVE OUT.
Five bullet points, please.
Try not to be so trumpesque, Philo. It's embarassing.
Also: 4 decades online has taught us a lot about screaming keyboard warriors. Try not to mark yourself so blatantly.
Let's see: had a letter published in the paper, made the 5 calls, emailed 500 people about today's economic boycott and more...I only answered to gain the cred to say that bullying is a weak man's game. There are far better ways to motivate people.
THAT IS FANTASTIC--EXCELLENT WORK! SO GLAD YOU ARE DOING ALL THAT.
All caps. That reminds me of someone.
You do know, I assume, that ‘doing for Democracy' is as much a steady and often quiet every day state of mind as it is any one or another action. It is as much about understanding and believing in this most extraordinary, most crucial, riskiest, and most complex experiment in human government ever attempted as it is about shouting about it from the rooftops.
Would you like an email with five bulleted points? Lol
All caps is not cool
Attacking each other helps the opposition. Kindness, empathy, and respect are better. Your approach mirrors trump, musk, and the magas. Please avoid vitriol.
WHAT'S EVEN BETTER IS ACTUALLY DOING SOMETHING.
Stop screaming at people.
You have no idea what any of these people have or have not done - which means that you are a troll.
FUCK OFF.
:-)
We can send you a list at the end of the workday to see if you wont fire us.
What makes you think I'm lazy and have a fat ass?
I really think you need to go to the ER...low bld sugar maybe ?
please find someone to talk to, that is not healthy
Please turn off the All Caps. We thank you.
I'm happily blocking the screaming, arrogant Philosopher.
I completely understand your anger and frustration with the lack of tangible action in the non-Republican world. We need to be feeling our hair on fire, not resting in our comfort, privilege, and imagined safety. I appreciate you challenging people to WAKE UP. Hard decisions for people to make, and good for you for reminding everyone they have agency and choices. Thank you.
I agree, disconcerting not seeing more action in my town. Texas. What could go wrong does.
IT'S SCARY BECAUSE WE NOW ARE RULED BY AN ASSHOLE WHO IS PUTIN'S BITCH AND HE HAS COMMANDED HIS MINIONS TO ELIMINATE ALL CYBER INVESTIGATIONS INTO RUSSIAN ACTIVITIES, ALL FOREIGN INFLUENCE IN THIS COUNTRY, AND MORE (BONDI'S FIRST DAY). WE ARE NOW AN EXTENSION OF PUTIN'S RUSSIA.
THANK YOU. I AM YELLING BECAUSE I SAW NO ONE ON HERE DOING A FUCKING THING EXCEPT LIKING POSTS. THAT IS NOT POLITICAL ACTION; THAT IS NOT BEING AN AMERICAN WITH INTEGRITY!
What is this?
I chipped in $150. It was a little slow at first. Hopefully they're experiencing a lot of traffic.
https://u24.gov.ua/
YOU ARE TERRIFIC--WHAT A LOVELY DONATION!! THIS HAS GOT TO HELP UKRAINE FEEL LESS ALONE!
Done. I was wondering where I could donate! Thank you!
YOU'RE WELCOME. ALL I DID WAS SEARCH WITH DUCK DUCK GO AND FIND THIS SITE. YOU COULD DO THE SAME.
Donated $100. Thanks for yelling and suggesting we do something practical. This was a shakedown of Ukraine. Zelenskyy was right. No security guarantees.
Done- $100.
CONGRATS! YOU ARE EXCELLENT, MAKING THIS DONATION! I DEEPLY APPRECIATE YOUR ACTION!
Done. $100
Done - only $50, but it's what I can afford right now. Will keep the link and do more when I can.
Absolutely. Will donate!!
How do I know this website is real? https://u24.gov.ua/
duh.
WTH?
The arrogance of these people - Trump and Vance and all of his choices for cabinet positions! ! I stand with Zelinski!! These fools in and around the White House. So angry. I can’t stand it. Somebody do something
They treated Zelensky like they are treating we the people-Americans. Bullying, denigrating, disrespectful. Like the butcher, Putin. Horrid.
That is us, jam their phones, both parties. Tesla protest tomorrow in my town, writing post cards to Florida voters now.
Indeed, Sandra. It is a “where is Superman” moment.
I, too.
Some of us have very limited funds. Been donating to ACLU, Democracy Docket, several Democrats like AOC, Chris Murphy, etc
Wish I could give more!
You do not need to explain yourself to anyone. Whatever Philosopher's problem is, it's his. Let him keep it.
Thank you, Sandra.
NOT A MAN, PAL.
you sure act like one.
Me too. 80 years old on pension.' But I gave a small amount, not thinking the amount will make a difference, but the FACT of doing it will be part of what I hope will be a tsunami of donations, so that the roar of the people here who are NOT endorsing Trump and Vance, but are SUPPORTING Zelensky will be heard!
Done
Not to any fund that you support. Probably a scam.
I researched Unite24; they are a valid 501(c)3. Not a scam.
Thank you.
I am heartbroken for this country as I watched a true hero, Volodymyr Zelensky, endure beratement and dismissal at the hands of two bullies. Zelensky, a leader and ally to the United States, has demonstrated immense courage, even expressing his willingness to step down from his presidency if it means securing peace for his nation. Yet, he was met with hostility and disrespect by individuals more focused on power and self-interest than on global security and democratic values.
The press conference was a disgrace, an embarrassment to the United States. Our leadership is not strengthened by deception, manipulation, or bullying—it is weakened, leaving us vulnerable to those eager to exploit a fragile ego and self-serving ambitions. This is not about politics; this is about character. We teach our children not to lie, bully, or humiliate others, yet that is exactly what our president embodies and promotes.
While members of the GOP continue to prioritize their careers over the integrity of this nation, President Zelensky sat with dignity, enduring humiliation and abuse for the sake of his country. His honor stood in stark contrast to the disgraceful display of our leadership—a new low in our nation’s history.
Things so small you need a microscope to see them:
1. The COVID-19 virus.
2. Trump's Putin-licking humility.
3. JD Vance's honor.
4. The integrity of the entire Republican Party.
Things so large you can actually see them from space:
1. The Great Pyramids at Giza
2. The Great Wall of China
3. The Great Barrier Reef
4. The Solid Titanium Balls of Volodymyr Zelenskyy.
5. the grotesque malignance of DJTrump
Cruelty. They wanted Zelensky to grovel. They wanted to humiliate him. They humiliated themselves.
Yeah. It's almost like there are two kinds of people in the world.... I find myself wondering how this awful capability of the human animal didn't lead to our extinction a zillion years ago. I also find myself loathing how hateful I have become.
If I may rise to your defense, I think you may be confusing hatred with contempt.
I feel nothing but contempt for Trump, for his eyeliner-wearing sidekick, his many apologists and wormtongues because they're arrogant bullies who think they not only own the playground, but deserve it. The history of the world shows that those kind of people will simply take anything they like if they're not resisted. So we resist. I believe that to be right action. Hope that helps.
I agree there are different people in terms of awareness,empathy emotions that make divisions. I do not loathe myself for hating the evil. I use that term now.
You say it perfectly. Thanks.
Two small men trying to look like big men. With every disgusting stunt like this, Trump and Vance look smaller and smaller. I stand with Zelenskyy!
That's the perfect description, Diana! Both Trump and Vance will NEVER be as a big a man as Zelenskyy is. I think JD was just taking advantage of this opportunity to play big man on campus while President Musk is out of the room. This was nothing but performative assholery from both of them.
I agree. JD was the instigator of the humiliation dumped on Zelenski. Trump then jumped in.
Yes! I thought the exact same thing! He feels overshadowed and humiliated by Musk and is trying to weasel his way back in and look imoortant.
Easy to see why. In most meetings, Elmo takes the floor, Trump sits there falling asleep, and nobody even remembers JD is there.
“Elmo”. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Please stop repeating the Goebbels-like lie in calling Musk 'president'. He isn't and we didn't elect him. We did however, make a supreme error in electing Trump.
It's sarcasm, Steve.
Is it now? Okay, but t's so hard to tell today, since so many are doing it and they aren't being sarcastic.
Except for Elmo himself, I don't think anybody really believes he's president. But that doesn't change the fact that in the ways that count, he's clearly running the show in this White House. And that's disgraceful. As you rightfully point out, nobody voted for that jackass. He has no business doing any of the things he's doing. But not one person, Trump included, will do a damned thing to stop him.
It's easy not to recognize sarcasm in posts. I'll try to remember to put an '/s' after future sarcastic posts.
Good call all around.
I really wonder if it was a “set up”!
I think it was. I don't believe Trump ever had any intention of signing a deal with Ukraine because that would have forced him to side with Ukraine over Russia, and his boss in Moscow wouldn't allow it.
JD Vance's bullying behavior was revolting. He started in on Zelensky before Trump. He's as bad as Trump.
We must get rid of Trump AND Vance.
It would have been a lot easier not to have elected them in the first place. Getting rid is going to be a lot harder and will take longer still. Many people were very short-sighted.
This reflects an unengaged, ignorant electorate. They have to feel the pain and think more deeply about the country. We cannot have a democracy, and will not, if this continues.
Only in his dreams could Vance be even half the man and leader that Zelenskyy is.
Thank you. Too upset to write as well. Unbelievable.
Michelle. I share your well stated ideas and feelings. Thank you for expressing them so well. It seems that everyone should agree and that official, Constitutionsl steps should be taken in proper ways by the people we pay to to represent us. I hope they all will. If anyone had a doubt before today, I do not see how they could doubt now. Since not one person can be proud of the behaviors we have witnessed, it seems that the proper, legal steps should be taken soon. We are not a country of bullies. Our citizens and our children deserve to see people who are not bullies representing us.
It was the antithesis of an artful deal. Felon 47 and his cronies don’t deserve to be anywhere near the White House.
Then let's do whatever it takes to get them out!
I couldn’t agree with you more. It was an absolute disgrace and I have so much respect for President Zelenskyy.
3 bullies: the “reporter” who asked about his attire. And it’s obvious Zelensky was a good comedian, he answered them without giving an inch. And in a language that’s not his first language.
BTW, “costume” is what several languages call what men wear when they think they’re not wearing anything but what they’re supposed to.
I have some meaningful words that can be written on those postcards. Send out one each day over the next 20 days: moron, cheat, liar, narcissist, evil, loser, rapist, felon, asshole, immigrant, snake oil salesman, antagonist, vile, stupid, pig, baby, womanizer, gold digger, orange asshole, dictator, racist, idiot, psychopathic liar, immoral, sexual predator, ugly, and once more for good measure, loser!!!
I am wondering. Would name calling, however fitting the names are, have any effect on a bully who revels in name-calling other people? It seems that raising ire might be part of the intent.
Nope! But it sure will keep my BP down and protect my TV screen from my throwing things at his head!!!
Nancy Karan, I understand those feelings for sure! Thanks for helping me let off my own steam by reading your shared frustration and whatever the right word is. I know that my scolding them while watching the video does no good either, but it helps me and possibly lowered the blood pressure, too. Sharing here also helps. Until I found so many good people responding, including you, I felt horrible. I still do, but the good company and varied reactions make a needed difference.
🥰🥰
That is a fucking insulting way to ask people for donations. you are assuming no one is donating or has donated. your attitude doesn't improve things. Go away.
Hear hear. Philosopher's yelling (caps lock stuck) and language is an uncivil turn-off.
stop
I read your crude comment the first 15 times you posted it, so you can stop now.
who hit like here ??? I mean on philosopher
I have a few days ago !!!!! it is EASY
I stand with Zelensky. Do I hear an echo?
Yes, I hear a million echos! Trump has shrunk to the size of a mote, and they are really really small.
Here's another one. I stand with Ukraine. Where can we donate directly to them?
You can go to President Zelenskyy's initiative United24. There are a jillion things you can donate to --- everything from armored personnel carriers, drones, incubators, battlesite life-saving equipment, rebuilding projects, demining, you name it.
https://u24.gov.ua/
We have do and will continue to.
Donated!
Thanks. I'll do it.
I hope someone answers this question! Where do we donate?!?!?
Timothy Snyder has listed a number of organizations taking donations. See his latest video on Substack.
How about we go off and be a jerk somewhere else?
Philosopher,
Given that you have no idea who has done what, that you are currently in the throes of an ongoing, out-of-control outburst, that said outburst is not not an effective way to encourage folks to part with their money -- and that the goal is to actually support the people of Ukraine -- I strongly suggest you take a long break from this thread and go do A LOT of deep breathing until you can rein yourself in and return with some productive messaging.
THROES
Thank you for the correction, and edited to reflect such.
I fear you're doing more harm here than the good you desire.
What good? What evidence of it? Braying about anything incessantly and rudely isn't convincing.
FUCK OFF YOU TWIT.
Philosopher. I'm going to stretch this out and still think you are a reasonable person. . . . I've given all I can and if they take away my social security, I'll come and pitch a tent on your porch.
GOOD FOR YOU! I DON'T HAVE A PORCH BECAUSE I LIVE IN A SMALL CONDO, BUT HEY--SHOW UP. I AM VERY WORRIED ABOUT THOSE WHO LIVE ON SOCIAL SECURITY AND THAT'S FUELING MY IMMENSE ANGER RIGHT NOW--ALONG WITH FEARS FOR THE KIDS WHO WILL DIE OF MEASLES, FLU, COVID, AND UNTREATED CANCERS AFTER WHAT THE HHS IS DOING.
melania, is that you ?
Philosopher: I hear that.
GOOD! I AM SO FULL OF FURY AT PEOPLE WHO SIT BACK AND COMMENT BUT DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING NOW, WHEN IT'S ESSENTIAL FOR EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US TO ACT AND TO DONATE IF WE CAN!! I AM PRACTICALLY BANKRUPTING MYSELF WITH DONATIONS BECAUSE THERE IS SO MUCH TERRIBLE NEED. EVERY PERSON WHO LETS OTHERS DO THE WORK, THINKING THAT THE TROUBLES WILL NEVER AFFECT HER/HIM/THEM IS PART OF THE PROBLEM AT THIS POINT.
Philosopher
Do you talk to your mom like you talk here?
What the fuck is wrong with you?
$100 is a peanuts donation.
Quit being so ugly to people who want to help. It's not necessary.
And you know this how? You brand yourself with ignorance with every assumption.
Don't let the door hit you on the ass, you jackass.
Reported for being abusive. Take you act somewhere else.
Thank you!
Reported as abusive.
Thank you Philosopher for your fervor. We appreciate your enthusiasm, but we do not allow name calling in this community as we do not believe it fosters productive dialogue or discourse.
Do I have to report each single comment by this "philosopher" or will you take a look at all of them? These endless insults and name-calling is really not acceptable.
You don’t know who has donated without broadcasting it like you do, humble bragging.
Go talk to MAGA, though I will be surprised if THIS doesn't do something to move them off their behinds.
I upgraded my subscription just so I could report you.
That's the best way to handle trolling like this. Then make sure to block this jerk.
GOOD!
ARE YOU LIKE HAVING A STROKE OR SOMETHING ?
let me guess...Yale?
WRONG. NO IVIES FOR ME.
AMEN!
bot?
It says, in your bio you're a retired Greek philosophy teacher. Did you encourage your students to speak like this? Have some respect for others and leave out the four letter words...
bot
This is bullying not negotiations. I’m with President Zelenskyy. He’s a great leader.
Marilyn: Yes--and it's much less political than it is existential.
Zelensky held his own!!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 I heard Zelensky walked out! They didn't kick him out. I'm sure that's what the 🍊🤡 said happened though. I STAND with Ukraine!!! ❤️🇺🇦
Who the hell are these people…..I am embarrassed for my country.
We elected them. With the help of the 40% or so who chose not to vote. This is now who we are. No honor, no compassion, no truth. We are at a low point in the history of our once-great nation and poised to go still lower.
NO, IT IS NOT! There are more of us non-trump voters speaking out, and acting against the 3 bullies in charge - trump/vance/musk - we will NOT be bullied into shutting up, cowering in fear, listening to evil men who take our speech away! He can't force us to shut up, just like he's not forced Zelensky to shut up! Not even a good attempt, you lyin' SOS! Europe will stand with Ukraine, US will too!
You misrepresent my position. See my response to Susan Shea below.
No, "we" didn't. Not even a majority of the voters. And we need to remember that and resist.
This is true. But "we" includes all of us. And a small plurality of those of us who chose to vote elected these creatures. Who now represent us, despicable as they so clearly are. But we do need to remember, difficult as that may be for so many of us. And resist? Definitely.
Decidedly not, James. More people voted for someone else than voted for Trump. He's only parking his fat ass in our White House because of the vestigial organ known as the electoral college.
Jane, what you say is true, but Agent Orange won a small plurality of the popular vote, it wasn't just the Electoral College that put him where he is. Unlike 2016. Unfortunately, he and the sewer rats that now populate his Cabinet (or is it Musk's Cabinet?) now represent us before the world. Those of us who still believe in the principles stated in our founding documents now have the duty to oppose and resist this utterly repellent regime. (Of course, "regime" is the word we use to describe any government we don't like, including our own.)
You're correct on the plurality, but more people still voted for someone else than voted for Trump.
This is true, Susan, but we all bear the mark of shame that the Musk/Trump regime imposes on us before the world
From the perspective of someone from the land Down Under who has studied and read a lot on US law snd history, that someone like Trump is in power today is due to the meeting in Independence Hall in the summer of 1787. These 55 men produced what was then and remains a flawed Constitution. That Americans still revere it is mind-boggling.
The Constitution was never meant to stay as written. The Framers knew they were writing a document for their times, but they added an amendment process to allow it to grow and change with later times and civil society demands. The electoral college is one of vestigial elements of the Constitution that's not only unnecessary, but in many cases has resulted in actual harm to the country. All that said, it remains an impressive document.
Well said!
You would be more effective if you dropping your own nasty language.
The most pathetic, shameful, disgusting display of orchestrated, made-for-trash TV bullying ever to have soiled the Oval Office.
And I thought nothing could make me feel even more contempt for the Felon-in-Chief and his Maybellined Mini-Me Boy sidekick. "A day that will live in infamy" for the United States of America....
I love Maybellined Mini-Me Boy sidekick. Just perfect!
It’s increasingly impossible to deny Trump is Putin’s operative - astounding given that Russia is a mafia state that offers nothing any foreign business or other country wants. Maybe the deal is Putin will use nukes to gain control of all former Soviet bloc states, and Trump will get his rare earth minerals that way. The extent of Trump’s betrayal of Ukraine and western democracies is hard to overstate.
You are right. He is reported to have been a Russian plant since the 1980's. I thought so when he was in office before, without these reports. He is not even trying to hide it anymore. He is a TRAITOR! There has to be a way to remove him from office because of this betrayal.
Do you think his hand-picked cabinet is going to Amendment 25 him? No.
Do you think that the Republican majority Congress is going to impeach him? No.
Outside of the grim reaper, and assuming there is a presidential election in 2028, it looks as if we're stuck with this lemon of a bad choice.
There's another element to today's televised Show of Disgrace that most Americans may not understand. This loop will be re-broadcast on Russian State TV 1 over and over again, endlessly repeated to drive home the "point" that Americans no longer support Zelensky.
Don't think for a second Donald Trump isn't aware of this, or that this was some kind of spontaneous show of anger. It was not. It was all *carefully planned* probably with JD Shady Lady setting the honey trap as a pretext for an orchestrated show of idiotic bullying and lying by the Liar-in-Chief.
As our former Speaker once said in 2019, "all roads with you end with Putin." Whether money or pee-pee tapes or being a recruit since the 1980s, or something else or all of the above --- one day we may find out. No longer any doubt for me, however.
I seriously wonder if trump and his nasty handlers will be in office long enough to get those spoils. Trump is betting the ranch that he can drag the USA into the status of a failed state from which he will make money. So it depends on what removes the gaslighting glasses from people's eyes.
We cannot wait until 2028. Trump is laying the groundwork to remain in office for a third term. We must regain both the House and Senate in 2026 to slow this travesty down until we elect a democrat to the White House in 2028.
I doubt if Trump intends to allow elections in 2026 or 2028.
Disgusting. Sounds like it was planned to justify dropping all pretense of maintaining a US connection to an independent Ukraine.
You can bet your bottom dollar it was planned and orchestrated. Little JD set a honey trap -- this was about as spontaneous as the German invasion of Poland in 1939.
Planned for sure to be televised so Putin can show across his airways. Disgusting display of childish bullies. Perhaps if tRump had given the money to Zelensky instead of trying to force him to investigate Biden this war would be much different and perhaps over. So glad my Dad is not alive to see what the USA that he fought so proudly to protect has become.
100%
I'm thinking you're right, although I'm thinking Vance also started the shouting to rev up the instinctual nastiness of his boss and keep it whipped up.
Pino even commented "this was good tv."
There is no doubt in my mind that this was planned. In the pea-brained mind of the President bullying is the only way to get his way. Unless it isn’t. This was nothing more than “bad-cop, bad-cop”.
Yup.
That’s not moving people to donate, you sound like Trump. Shouting and bullying with insults.
Not only that, but unless we have the scale of funds like a federal government does, we are sadly not going to offset trump's clear plan to abandon Ukraine financially. What we CAN do is dial up our opposition, put real pressure on our Congressional reps to step up and resist strongly, and see how Europe responds to this grotesque expression of Ugly America.
Ellen,
Nobody wants you to beg, but it would be helpful if YOU stepped up and behaved with the decency you expect of others. You undermine your own ask when you behave in the way you've been doing throughout the comments section. And your anger is hardly an excuse for your abusive behavior.
And given your training and your current professional affiliations, I would strongly encourage you to rethink your strategy.
Thank you for the link.
Are you a Russian bot planted to enrage anti-trump Americans?
"Grotesque" is a light way to put it; it was very hard to watch. The way Trump and Vance, both Russian puppets, treated President Zelenskyy, is completely abhorrent. It was nothing but bullying and the demands of man-children for respect they've done nothing to deserve.
I stand with Ukraine!
I just watched the fiasco at the White House with Zelensky, Trump and Vance.
Never have I been so embarrassed for my country.
Never have I felt such shame to be a US citizen.
Zelensky was right to walk out after being treated so ignobly by what purports to be leadership in our country.
Then I read about what occurred previous to the meeting with Trump when enabler Lyndsey Graham said, “This is Donald Trump the dealmaker and peacemaker on display."
If Congress, particularly Republicans in Congress, don’t stand up and condemn this farce who is impersonating the leader of our country for the outrageous incompetence that he is, I have no hope for our country and I’m too old to start learning Russian. I stand with Ukraine.
I am not embarrassed to be an American, but I am embarrassed by Trump and Vance's attempt to humiliate Zelensky--which is backfiring spectacularly. I am also embarrassed that enough of my fellow Americans insanely voted for the Trump-Vance ticket. As Republicans in Congress underwent spinalectomies, I do not expect any pushback from that group.
WTH??? I am embarrassed by America, Trump, Vance, and musk! I truly hope Zelensky and the world know that most Americans do not agree with our current,unfortunate, administration.
And lil’Rubio sitting there like a deer in the headlights. Guess that is what happens when your sell your soul to the devil. This was an embarrassing moment for our country.
I was also wondering about the "absence" everywhere of the American Secretary of State. The only honorable thing Rubio can do is resign and then explain why he resigned. And no, family will not be tolerated as a reason.
That’s very on brand for a guy who used to go foam parties.
I have never been so ashamed of a United States President and Vice President. Trump and Vance disgraced us on the national stage today from our White House. Trump has always touted the "Art of The Deal." Obvious he never read the book that his ghostwriter wrote.
You still haven't got it if you think Trump is just an irrational man-child. He is an agent of Putin, a thug installed by the Kremlin in the White House. That fits all the facts. Why he would tell Starmer America won't protect the U.K if attacked by Russia with nuclear weapons, why he would bully Zelensky to make peace on Putin's terms and also give Trump (and his cronies) a piece of the cake. Trump is a full-blown, thorough-going traitor who has sold out his country.
I stand with Ukraine; I stand with Zelensky. 🇺🇦