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Thomas Moore's avatar

There is no end of money for war but we all must sacrifice health care, food, housing, and education to keep money flowing to the rich.

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James's avatar

Eisenhower warned us. We didn't listen.

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Bob and Gayle's avatar

Ike also put the ball in play in Vietnam.

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Bonnie Boyce's avatar

This morning my inner cynic immediately took over when we heard about a ceasefire in the Iran kerfuffle. I muttered, "Stocks sure must've dropped at Lockheed Martin, RTX and Northrop Grumman!"

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Fay Reid's avatar

Good question, Daniel. Plutonium can also be used and other elements as well.

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Bobbette Strauss's avatar

Fear-based spending at that. Enuf already…

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Robin's avatar

although, if anyone would like to initiate a 'regime change' here, I'm all for it

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L B Rose's avatar

This is exactly my wish. Maybe a new regime could locate a copy of The Constitution somewhere, read it, understand it, and set up a government as described in its handwritten script (guess even the SCOTUS can't read script any more).

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Finn Frock's avatar

SC. Out with SC “ justice pubic hair on coke can womanizer.”

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Daniel Solomon's avatar

According to several sources, there is an ongoing coup. According to Tousi, most of the Iranian general staff has been killed and their successors are pledging support to the crown prince in exile and he asked Trump for help. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCjJdkOqhTg

Tousi TV. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjJec0wv1EUomjrBNt1xCTA

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Bob and Gayle's avatar

Wonder what they are smoking.

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Daniel Solomon's avatar

This comes from inside Iran. They had a democracy. 50% of the population, women, object to Sharia. They have several large minority groups that oppose the national government. 8 to 12 million Kurds in Iran, making them the third-largest ethnic group in the country after Persians and Azerbaijanis, are alligned with Kurds in Iraq.

Maybe 200,000 Sunnis.

Prior to the 1979 Islamic Revolution, there were approximately 200,000 Assyrians in Iran, according to the Assyrian Policy Institute. Many Assyrians left the country after the revolution, with the majority settling in the United States, and they support regime change.

There are approximately 300,000 people of Persian descent in Israel. While most of this community speaks Persian (Farsi), it's important to note that some also speak Judeo-Persian languages. The exact number of Farsi speakers within this community isn't specified, but it's a significant portion of the overall population. If there is intelligence and a fifth column they are probably the source.

They had massive protests a few years ago. Executed ome, jailed tens of thousands. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahsa_Amini_protests

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David Gardiner's avatar

Regime change BEGINS at home, Robin.

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Robin's avatar

working on that

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Phyllis Logan's avatar

No greater feeling than putting a dictator out of commission.

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Jamie Curtis's avatar

I wholeheartedly support this idea!

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susan gentleman's avatar

Back in the 1950's the CIA engineered a "regime change" i.e., a coup) of the democratically elected government of Iran. To put it in simple terms, we sowed these seeds and now we are harvesting the results. The coup (actually there were two of them because the Iranian people backed their elected president who intended to nationalize the oil company for the benefit of the citizens, so the first attempt was not successful) led to us re-installing the Shah, followed some years later by the mullah takeover. Iran has suffered from us heavily over these years.

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Wendy Shelley's avatar

Whatever the reasons for regime change might come out of the mouths of fools, (imho) it is Netanyahu who strokes Trump‘s ego by saying he’ll win the Nobel peace prize for supporting Israel. That’s the reason we have to be involved.

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Finn Frock's avatar

Trump never mentioned the Iranian citizens when announcing his bombing.

No boots on the ground in Iran but we have boots on the ground in Los Angeles.

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It's Come To This's avatar

Worse that that. He defunded the Farsi Language Service of Voice of America. Go figure.

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Robot Bender's avatar

Let's hope he doesn't decide to try to invade. US troops invading Iran would entail horrendous casualties on both sides. Iran isn't Saddam Hussein's Iraq. He lined up his forces like a parade and waited for the Allied buildup. That won't be the way in Iran. They have thousands of people well versed in IEDs and asymmetrical warfare. It would be like Afghanistan, Syria, etc. all over again.

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Daniel Solomon's avatar

As recently as a couple of years ago, there were major protests. Executions. Tens of thousands jailed.

It's estimated that at most 20% of the poulation actually support Sharia.

Meanwhile the mullahs are accusing many of being allied with Mossad. "Iran has carried out multiple arrests of people it suspects of spying for Israel since the start of its campaign against the Islamic Republic’s nuclear program and military infrastructure on June 13." https://www.timesofisrael.com/iran-says-man-accused-of-spying-for-israel-executed/

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Julee Jackson's avatar

Once again, Jen has asked the obvious questions that our illustrious pretend politicians in charge, do not. Well done and very thoughtful.

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SJR's avatar

Hear, hear. Thank you Jen for this excellent piece!

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Marc Panaye's avatar

A little bird informed me that Trump is having somebody "ghost write" his next book.

A book that will soon be on sale and will be available in a pre-order when paying with lots and lots of $trump coins or with donating some gold plated stuff to the White House.

The little bird also told me that Bezos is paying a hefty $100M for the book.

Here's the working title:

"The Art of the Fail"

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Finn Frock's avatar

Or, “Commander in Thief.”

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It's Come To This's avatar

"Fast Times at Dementia High"

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David Buchanan's avatar

Jen: Maybe I’m just a Grinch but when you write “Regime smashing” or “regime annihilation” results in “casualties, expense, and fallout (e.g., attacks on U.S. personnel (i.e. citizens), hostage taking of U.S. personnel (again citizens), consistent terror attacks (as we are seeing in Blue States and cities),” it seems as if something similar is happening at home. The current crop of Republicans, however, do have a plan for what’s next and it certainly isn’t a “better alternative.”

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Linda MacDonald's avatar

Very astute reflection David. I have been thinking the same thing. Federalism is such a knotty problem IF one party does not rule in all states. Talk about contradictions. Of course that proves the real goal is power, dictatorial power. Such an outcome is not inevitable. But everyone who is not part of the 30%maga club will have to struggle and fight for years most likely to secure democracy and democratic principles if there is to be any decent future for those too young or not yet born to join the struggle now. Time to rewrite the Declaration of Independence.

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willoughby's avatar

This is all part of Donald's imperial fantasy, fed and fueled by the dreadful men who comprise his inner circle.

They all have reasons to want Donald looking outward while they focus on matters here at home. There's Russ Vought, obsessed with pushing Project 2025 over the finish line, and Stephen Miller, obsessed with his massive, borderline genocidal project of ethnic cleansing, and JD Vance, sweatily tangled up in his unwholesome dream of succession and imagining the ways in which he will wield his vindictive power once installed in the Oval Office.

So they're all quite happy, each for reasons of his own, to see Donald tangled up in Putinesque visions of global conquest--the annexation of Canada, the invasion and occupation of Greenland, the crushing of Iran and (no doubt he imagines) its transformation into a highly profitable subsidiary of Trump Inc, for wherever petrodollars flow Donald sees glittering billions flowing into his capacious pockets.

One thing is unequivocally clear. Under the Republicans, the rules-based international order is dead.

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Stephen Brady's avatar

I suspect that no small number of Americans arise daily and hope for Regime Change here...

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Daniel Solomon's avatar

Guilty.

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Stephen Brady's avatar

I scan the headlines daily for “He’s Dead!”.

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Ivan Tufaart's avatar

Nice column that summarized the issues very well. The current theocratic regime is hardly what we'd want there, but even if we (with or without Israeli help) could topple the regime, it's far from guaranteed that whatever replaces it won't be even worse- and historical example says there's a good chance that's exactly what would happen

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L B Rose's avatar

Unfortunately, our current regime models the current one in Iran.

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James McConnel's avatar

I believe the regime change to which Trump is referring is in the US: change to a kleptocratic autocracy. Iran is just a “look what my toys can do”move by Trump. He’ll leave the rest of us to pay the bill. Wait for the crypto coin with Alexander the Great on one side and Trump on the other.

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Linda’s Morning Media Review's avatar

Spending the morning reviewing the news analysis on Substack and YouTube, I appreciate your consistent, well-reasoned analysis.

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Jane in NC's avatar

The US is capable of taking out the head of regimes we don't like, but we have a lousy track record of installing the near-mythical 'pro-democracy, pro-west' type of regime in its place. We tried that for years with Hamid Karzai in Afghanistan. The problem? Any 'pro-democracy, pro-west' regime would likely be as acceptable to the Iranian populace as Karzai was in Afghanistan. The replacement regime would be looked at with suspicion as a western puppet.

Also, let's be honest, the notion that we need to go into another country and replace its repressive regime that stomps on women's rights, minority rights, and terrorizes its own people is rich coming the current regime in DC.

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Phyllis Logan's avatar

Rubio defended the attack, because Iran "could" produce nuke materials. On that basis alone, imagine how many countries they could justify taking down. Good analysis, Jane.

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Jane in NC's avatar

Thanks, Phyllis! Remember when Rubio was considered the mature adult in the room? Kind of proves Rick Wilson's saying, ETTD, Everything Trump Touches Dies. RIP, Liddle Marco's common sense and conscience.

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Phyllis Logan's avatar

Exactly!

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Carole Langston's avatar

Superb analysis. We think we can alter other cultures. Such arrogance. Back fires everytime.

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Carole Langston's avatar

Also. It's about Oil for the US. Has been since the 1950's.

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Finn Frock's avatar

Yes!!! Regime change in the USA!

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Catherine Lugg's avatar

It's all about $$$ for war industries and our own populace can rot. Got it.

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Roger Fradenburgh's avatar

Actually, I'm okay with "regime change" by virtue of the fat it's so desperately needed here.

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Ivan Tufaart's avatar

Be careful what you wish for........................

In fact, there's a Yiddish curse that goes:

May you always get EVERYTHING you wish for!

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Ellen McKinney's avatar

We’re already in its Chinese counterpart: May you live in interesting times.

In my 9th decade, I'd sure like to see Republicans acting like Eisenhower (minus the mass deportations), not like Hair Hitler and his goons and ignoramuses.

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