One way to push back against an unconstitutional government is to imitate the Polish "March of 1000 robes.” imagine ten thousand American judges coming to Washington and marching down the National Mall in their robes. Trump is so disrespectful of the American judiciary that I think they are going to be ready to do it.
I would be more than happy to get one criminal out of this country( guess who?) without due process even if we had to hand over that flying bordello, the ultimate example of bad taste, with no strings attached.
For all their losses at SCOTUS that Norm documents so well here, the Trump administration has hardly been deterred. (The illegal Garcia deportation is an apt case in point). From where is the punishment for defying SCOTUS to come? It would appear to be from nowhere, because there is no one with the legal authority to arrest anyone at the court's command. The court defeats have been annoying to Trump and his satraps for sure and slowed down the works to some extent, but little beyond that.
Every time I see Jennifer and Norm together, they're giddy that a court here and there (or the Supreme Court) has issued a partial ruling, a partial setback, a bit of a slap on the wrist, a tsk-tsk over there, etc. I keep thinking: 'am I the only person who DOESN'T think this is a stunning victory?'
Some of us are old enough to remember the Warren Court, which struck down miscegenation laws in the United States unanimously, or the Burger Court which ruled there was no such thing as 'executive privilege' behind which President Nixon could hide -- by a vote of 8-0, with the only Nixon appointee recusing himself from the case. And there was no question that even the vile Nixon would obey the Court at once, which he did.
We are nowhere near those times. Celebrating the return of the rule of law is uncalled for.
I also see that "for all their losses at SCOTUS..., the Trump administration has hardly been deterred". While Contrarian writers spell out some of the possible sanctions, none of them seem to address what happens if none of the rulings are abided by.
Thanks for the addition, Irene. I have addressed what might happen if the Trumpiverse ignores SCOTUS rulings in my own post entitled "Are We Already in a Constitutional Crisis?"
Moody's strips US of triple A credit rating & warns of rising debt, deficits & inflation, but hey the price of gas will likely go down...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7u87acNcSU
Oh, to live in MAGA Trumplandia where science, facts & law don’t matter. For the convicted fraudster in chief & his capos the presidency is a side hustle & the grifting never ends.
Gaetz 86'd McConnell McCarthy McConnell...what right wing podcasters & pols haven't called for 86ing political allies? Serial would be assassins in plain sight? BTW Comey 86'd Hillary to the delight of the right. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4VjtZiGuo8 #Resist gaslighting & right wing propaganda that distracts from the in your face corruption.
Next time in front of SCOTUS on the Kilmar Abrego Garcia case, why don't you suggest that the Supremes pause all federal court action requested by the executive branch on any subject anywhere until the executive complies with the Supreme Court order to return him AND EVERYONE ELSE SEIZED, HELD AND/OR DEPORTED AND JAILED IN EL SALVADOR OR ELSEWHERE WITHOUT DUE PROCESS. (Maybe add dropping the case against the WI judge to your preconditions.)
State judiciaries will follow that lead if they see fit and I bet many would. It may not be a legally crisp and clear approach, but we must fight with the tools we have and quit bringing our boxing gloves to gun fights.
Telling this carnival barker he can't have it both ways with the federal courts would be a great way to begin bringing an out of control executive to heel. Maybe Roberts et all will see the error of DT appeasement and begin to protect the courts and the country from this clear, present and immanent danger to our democracy.
Bullies like Trump will always cave to what they fear may be stronger than they are.....Trump is ultimately a coward who will break under sufficient pressure as he always does: remember last week in Switzerland with China? Surrender, bitch, blame and call it a win over your shoulder in full galloping retreat....is DT's MO: Let's keep that pattern of his retreat going everywhere including the Supreme Court.
If people like you and Jen Rubin and Lawrence Tribe and Judge Luttig and Joyce Vance and Andrew Weisman and Neal Kaytal and Harry Litman (and too many other fine keepers of the flame to name) keep up this kind of drumbeat on the legal front, we will vanquish him sooner than later. We shalll overcome.
I don't know how you do it, Norm, but I'm grateful for your week's-end summary--in addition to all the outstanding and oh-so-important legal work you do.
Many thanks and much gratitude to you, Jen and everyone at the Contrarian! I am getting far more from subscribing here than I did at WaPo,... bless its heart.
In 2020, when the Roberts Court dispensed with the settled precedent of Roe v Wade with its radical ruling in Dobbs, Chuck Schumer made some relatively mild noises of disapproval as ordinary US citizens exercised their First Amendment right to demonstrate against the ruling, with some demonstrations taking place near the houses of Republican justices.
The Republican apparatus of propaganda and smear at once exploded into hyperdrive, declaring via Fox and Twitter and the Senate floor that Schumer's remarks were death threats and that the demonstrators were potential assassins.
Congressional Republicans rushed through appropriations providing extra security for their justices, while the Beltway press tut-tutted disapprovingly that the Democrats had created an incendiary environment, and needed to tone it down.
John Roberts himself joined in, allying himself with his Party and its demonstration of faux outrage.
Today, in the wake of the Court's holding action on the administration's effort to use the Alien Enemies Act to justify lawless mass deportations, Donald Trump "re-truthed" a bizarre comment by one of his most ardent and bloodthirsty allies, Mike Davis, a wildly anti-democracy dreamer of violent retributive dreams, and a man who once clerked for Associate Justice Neil Gorsuch.
Davis had tweeted: "The Supreme Court still has an illegal injunction on the President of the United States, preventing him from commanding military operations to expel these foreign terrorists. The President should house these terrorists near the Chevy Chase Country Club [near the private residence of Chief Justice Roberts], with daytime release."
This is the sentiment the Republicans' president endorsed: a sleazy, slimy implied threat of physical violence against justices who didn't give Donald his own way on a constitutional matter.
A totally wonderful read and antidote to angry responses from trumpers in my circle who only watch fox and know NOTHING about any of this, only that all is well and the golden age is on its way. If I report otherwise they melt down. Norm, you are a breath of fresh air!!!!
It’s quaint that the Supreme Court keeps issuing orders related to administration behavior when they have already placed him above the law with the immunity decision. I’m not even clear why admin lawyers are even answering the court’s questions, maybe just for fun?, they could just say that regulating who is in this country is a core power of the president and refuse to answer anything.
Thanks Norm. I look forward to your weekly update. Monday seems so long ago but yet, the week flew by. So much happening; hard to take it all in. The Contrarians are the people who help keep me sane. Thanks for all you and your friends do.
FANTASTIC!!! Thanks Norm and everyone with The Contrarians. Just keep it up; we’re going to win in the end!!
One way to push back against an unconstitutional government is to imitate the Polish "March of 1000 robes.” imagine ten thousand American judges coming to Washington and marching down the National Mall in their robes. Trump is so disrespectful of the American judiciary that I think they are going to be ready to do it.
See the video!
America’s March of 1000 Robes: A Way Out
https://kathleenweber.substack.com/p/americas-march-of-1000-robes-a-way
I would be more than happy to get one criminal out of this country( guess who?) without due process even if we had to hand over that flying bordello, the ultimate example of bad taste, with no strings attached.
Norm, your efforts are top-shelf! The recent comments of Bruce Springsteen and Pete Buttigieg are “Lincolnesque!” THANK YOU!
For all their losses at SCOTUS that Norm documents so well here, the Trump administration has hardly been deterred. (The illegal Garcia deportation is an apt case in point). From where is the punishment for defying SCOTUS to come? It would appear to be from nowhere, because there is no one with the legal authority to arrest anyone at the court's command. The court defeats have been annoying to Trump and his satraps for sure and slowed down the works to some extent, but little beyond that.
Every time I see Jennifer and Norm together, they're giddy that a court here and there (or the Supreme Court) has issued a partial ruling, a partial setback, a bit of a slap on the wrist, a tsk-tsk over there, etc. I keep thinking: 'am I the only person who DOESN'T think this is a stunning victory?'
Some of us are old enough to remember the Warren Court, which struck down miscegenation laws in the United States unanimously, or the Burger Court which ruled there was no such thing as 'executive privilege' behind which President Nixon could hide -- by a vote of 8-0, with the only Nixon appointee recusing himself from the case. And there was no question that even the vile Nixon would obey the Court at once, which he did.
We are nowhere near those times. Celebrating the return of the rule of law is uncalled for.
As the old hippies used to say, Right On!
I also see that "for all their losses at SCOTUS..., the Trump administration has hardly been deterred". While Contrarian writers spell out some of the possible sanctions, none of them seem to address what happens if none of the rulings are abided by.
Thanks for the addition, Irene. I have addressed what might happen if the Trumpiverse ignores SCOTUS rulings in my own post entitled "Are We Already in a Constitutional Crisis?"
I read your post just now and hope that we never ever come to fighting in the streets between citizens and US armed forces.
Moody's strips US of triple A credit rating & warns of rising debt, deficits & inflation, but hey the price of gas will likely go down...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7u87acNcSU
Oh, to live in MAGA Trumplandia where science, facts & law don’t matter. For the convicted fraudster in chief & his capos the presidency is a side hustle & the grifting never ends.
Gaetz 86'd McConnell McCarthy McConnell...what right wing podcasters & pols haven't called for 86ing political allies? Serial would be assassins in plain sight? BTW Comey 86'd Hillary to the delight of the right. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4VjtZiGuo8 #Resist gaslighting & right wing propaganda that distracts from the in your face corruption.
Hey Norm,
Next time in front of SCOTUS on the Kilmar Abrego Garcia case, why don't you suggest that the Supremes pause all federal court action requested by the executive branch on any subject anywhere until the executive complies with the Supreme Court order to return him AND EVERYONE ELSE SEIZED, HELD AND/OR DEPORTED AND JAILED IN EL SALVADOR OR ELSEWHERE WITHOUT DUE PROCESS. (Maybe add dropping the case against the WI judge to your preconditions.)
State judiciaries will follow that lead if they see fit and I bet many would. It may not be a legally crisp and clear approach, but we must fight with the tools we have and quit bringing our boxing gloves to gun fights.
Telling this carnival barker he can't have it both ways with the federal courts would be a great way to begin bringing an out of control executive to heel. Maybe Roberts et all will see the error of DT appeasement and begin to protect the courts and the country from this clear, present and immanent danger to our democracy.
Bullies like Trump will always cave to what they fear may be stronger than they are.....Trump is ultimately a coward who will break under sufficient pressure as he always does: remember last week in Switzerland with China? Surrender, bitch, blame and call it a win over your shoulder in full galloping retreat....is DT's MO: Let's keep that pattern of his retreat going everywhere including the Supreme Court.
If people like you and Jen Rubin and Lawrence Tribe and Judge Luttig and Joyce Vance and Andrew Weisman and Neal Kaytal and Harry Litman (and too many other fine keepers of the flame to name) keep up this kind of drumbeat on the legal front, we will vanquish him sooner than later. We shalll overcome.
I don't know how you do it, Norm, but I'm grateful for your week's-end summary--in addition to all the outstanding and oh-so-important legal work you do.
Many thanks and much gratitude to you, Jen and everyone at the Contrarian! I am getting far more from subscribing here than I did at WaPo,... bless its heart.
Poor WaPo - keeps sending me enticing little anti-Trump morsels in the hope of winning me back.
Rulings aplenty
Who is executing the rulings?
Where are the deported people??? Are they here? If they are not, then it is just talk. Without actionable compliance to these decisions ...WHAT?
I keep on asking and asking and asking about compliance with court orders, but so far....
In 2020, when the Roberts Court dispensed with the settled precedent of Roe v Wade with its radical ruling in Dobbs, Chuck Schumer made some relatively mild noises of disapproval as ordinary US citizens exercised their First Amendment right to demonstrate against the ruling, with some demonstrations taking place near the houses of Republican justices.
The Republican apparatus of propaganda and smear at once exploded into hyperdrive, declaring via Fox and Twitter and the Senate floor that Schumer's remarks were death threats and that the demonstrators were potential assassins.
Congressional Republicans rushed through appropriations providing extra security for their justices, while the Beltway press tut-tutted disapprovingly that the Democrats had created an incendiary environment, and needed to tone it down.
John Roberts himself joined in, allying himself with his Party and its demonstration of faux outrage.
Today, in the wake of the Court's holding action on the administration's effort to use the Alien Enemies Act to justify lawless mass deportations, Donald Trump "re-truthed" a bizarre comment by one of his most ardent and bloodthirsty allies, Mike Davis, a wildly anti-democracy dreamer of violent retributive dreams, and a man who once clerked for Associate Justice Neil Gorsuch.
Davis had tweeted: "The Supreme Court still has an illegal injunction on the President of the United States, preventing him from commanding military operations to expel these foreign terrorists. The President should house these terrorists near the Chevy Chase Country Club [near the private residence of Chief Justice Roberts], with daytime release."
This is the sentiment the Republicans' president endorsed: a sleazy, slimy implied threat of physical violence against justices who didn't give Donald his own way on a constitutional matter.
No outcry so far from the GOP, or from the press.
Great summation and great work by all!
A totally wonderful read and antidote to angry responses from trumpers in my circle who only watch fox and know NOTHING about any of this, only that all is well and the golden age is on its way. If I report otherwise they melt down. Norm, you are a breath of fresh air!!!!
It’s quaint that the Supreme Court keeps issuing orders related to administration behavior when they have already placed him above the law with the immunity decision. I’m not even clear why admin lawyers are even answering the court’s questions, maybe just for fun?, they could just say that regulating who is in this country is a core power of the president and refuse to answer anything.
He has already defied orders. Garcia is still in the El Salvador prison. These prisoners all need due process.
The press and the media should be mad as hell about this and demand that the Justice Dept. put the teeth they have to those "dragging their feet".
Thank you Contrarians for helping us cope with the firehose approach coming out of Washington.
Thank you Norman - and Jen - for your heroic work, you are both touchstones of Liberty.
Thanks Norm. I look forward to your weekly update. Monday seems so long ago but yet, the week flew by. So much happening; hard to take it all in. The Contrarians are the people who help keep me sane. Thanks for all you and your friends do.