Oh my, the maneuvers, shenanigans, and slight of hand the Rs go thru to win elections. It would be so much easier on everyone if they just followed the rules. It seems these days that they've lost some brain cells, or maybe many brain cells, by listening to their dishonorable leaders.
If only Republicans were in the game for protecting the electorate instead of the grifts and prestige, these shenanigans wouldn’t be necessary. Deplorable self interest motivates these election contests.
Stephen Richer clearly explains the absurdity of the appeals court ruling here. It makes no sense on any level--no law, precedent, or gut-level fairness. Asking voters to fix what the board of elections didn't tell them is--sorry--Kafkaesque. Waiting to object to longstanding practice--and only after the election--and only in one race--is a transparent attempt to overturn the voters will when the candidate doesn't get the result they want. (The only-one-race aspect is reminiscent of the Trump lie that the 2020 election was rigged--but only at the presidential level.)
The apparent ability to trace ballots back to voters after they are counted has been troubling me--glad to see an explanation coupled with a rightful objection. Allison Riggs won, fair and square. The biased ruling in favor of sore-loser Jefferson Griffin will, as Richer points out, open a Pandora's box for endless selective overturning of any close race that can have votes sorted and sifted after the fact.
The rule applies to only this one race because all of these rules apply only when Democrats win and the republicon loser will not accept the voter's verdict. All of this in red states only, of course.
I do NOT understand how these issues can be applied selectively to 60,000 ballots that were somehow identified by this candidate. Does he and the court know that these are the only ballots in the state that had these issues? If not, then why do these voters have to justify their votes? Why isn’t the court ordering the State Board of Elections to identify all ballots with these issues and contact ALL voters??
Because this is about rigging the election so the GOP candidate can win. It isn’t enough that the court already has a GOP majority. Heaven forbid that they allow another Democrat to sit on the court!
Surprise, surprise, surprise a GOP led Court refuses to obey the law. Isn't this a case where the Supreme Court would take up to uphold the rights of voters. After all it appears to be a case where a State Supreme Court and Appeals Court are not acting within the bounds of North Carolina's own Constitution nor its Supreme Court's precedence. Of course, we all know what the six Christian Nationalists believe about precedence. As the women on the podcast Strict Scrutiny say: "precedence is for suckers".
Best write-up I've seen on what are the issues in this weird case trying to through out so many votes and why the process is so agonizingly complex. We The People need to stand with the citizens of North Carolina and not the power wranglers.
If I lost by such a small number of votes relative to those cast I would feel perfectly justified in asking for a recount...that part I have no issue. The fact that there is a mechanism to personally identify votes is shocking to me...I have to sit with that for awhile. The point made that inappropriately cast ballots should only be followed up for that one contested race, and no other?! This exactly shows how craven this system has become. Oh yeah, plus vlaming the voter for not following nonexistent instructions.
I live in NC. If these 60000+ votes are being challenged because of how they were cast, what about the rest of the 5.5 million votes? I would wager that there is a systemic problem with voter registration in NC and "incomplete" registrations most likely can be found in more than just mail-in ballots and early ballots. This challenge is shameful.
I live in NC. Tonight, I will be on a NC Democratic mass call to explain what's happening and how to fight back. Proud of my state party.
Talk about a nightmarish feeling of powerlessness.
But I will be on that call, and stand ready to act.
Oh my, the maneuvers, shenanigans, and slight of hand the Rs go thru to win elections. It would be so much easier on everyone if they just followed the rules. It seems these days that they've lost some brain cells, or maybe many brain cells, by listening to their dishonorable leaders.
You should have put the word "win" in quotations as this is not about winning but rather stealing, a Republican specialty.
If only Republicans were in the game for protecting the electorate instead of the grifts and prestige, these shenanigans wouldn’t be necessary. Deplorable self interest motivates these election contests.
Stephen Richer clearly explains the absurdity of the appeals court ruling here. It makes no sense on any level--no law, precedent, or gut-level fairness. Asking voters to fix what the board of elections didn't tell them is--sorry--Kafkaesque. Waiting to object to longstanding practice--and only after the election--and only in one race--is a transparent attempt to overturn the voters will when the candidate doesn't get the result they want. (The only-one-race aspect is reminiscent of the Trump lie that the 2020 election was rigged--but only at the presidential level.)
The apparent ability to trace ballots back to voters after they are counted has been troubling me--glad to see an explanation coupled with a rightful objection. Allison Riggs won, fair and square. The biased ruling in favor of sore-loser Jefferson Griffin will, as Richer points out, open a Pandora's box for endless selective overturning of any close race that can have votes sorted and sifted after the fact.
The rule applies to only this one race because all of these rules apply only when Democrats win and the republicon loser will not accept the voter's verdict. All of this in red states only, of course.
I do NOT understand how these issues can be applied selectively to 60,000 ballots that were somehow identified by this candidate. Does he and the court know that these are the only ballots in the state that had these issues? If not, then why do these voters have to justify their votes? Why isn’t the court ordering the State Board of Elections to identify all ballots with these issues and contact ALL voters??
Because this is about rigging the election so the GOP candidate can win. It isn’t enough that the court already has a GOP majority. Heaven forbid that they allow another Democrat to sit on the court!
Surprise, surprise, surprise a GOP led Court refuses to obey the law. Isn't this a case where the Supreme Court would take up to uphold the rights of voters. After all it appears to be a case where a State Supreme Court and Appeals Court are not acting within the bounds of North Carolina's own Constitution nor its Supreme Court's precedence. Of course, we all know what the six Christian Nationalists believe about precedence. As the women on the podcast Strict Scrutiny say: "precedence is for suckers".
When it sounds like a coup it is.
Best write-up I've seen on what are the issues in this weird case trying to through out so many votes and why the process is so agonizingly complex. We The People need to stand with the citizens of North Carolina and not the power wranglers.
Mr. Richer, thank you for doing right by AZ. But why, given all you know, experienced & see today, are you still a Republican?
These arguments are so persuasive and well-reasoned, I have to wonder why Mr Richter is still a Republican.
If I lost by such a small number of votes relative to those cast I would feel perfectly justified in asking for a recount...that part I have no issue. The fact that there is a mechanism to personally identify votes is shocking to me...I have to sit with that for awhile. The point made that inappropriately cast ballots should only be followed up for that one contested race, and no other?! This exactly shows how craven this system has become. Oh yeah, plus vlaming the voter for not following nonexistent instructions.
We need to be using the right language. “Apparatchik” works. From Dictionary.com (example per recent Contrarian article):
“Trump's apparatchiks lost 61 of those, either because they lacked standing to sue or because they had no real evidence to offer.”
From Salon
GOP-Gaslighting Our People
That’s what they do when they try to steal elections.
So voter suppression after the fact is in play in NC.
I live in NC. If these 60000+ votes are being challenged because of how they were cast, what about the rest of the 5.5 million votes? I would wager that there is a systemic problem with voter registration in NC and "incomplete" registrations most likely can be found in more than just mail-in ballots and early ballots. This challenge is shameful.