Those 7 prosecutors deserve the respect and gratitude of every single American. They each made a significant personal sacrifice to defend the rule of law, and their actions serve as inspiration for the rest of us. May we all be as brave in the days ahead.
I think she needs to be comfortable doing so, based on the law, especially because it's never been done before. There are ramifications for her doing it, not only for her as an individual, but for the people of New York State, who will without doubt be hit hard by whatever retributive acts this regime dreams up.
Fascism cannot exist by itself or be imposed simply by true-believing zealots. It seeks co-optation and acquiescence from those whose only weapons sometimes are simply to say "not through me." This is where we are. It's a place well-known to Germans and Italians of conscience during the 1930s, to the Indian satyagrahis following Gandhi's adherence to a moral fight for independence from Britain, familiar to Soviet refuseniks and dissidents of the 1970s, to all those asked to comply with kangaroo systems of justice and lies that damage both the speaker and the listener. The regime will not leave you be --- it wants you to sign on the dotted line, it wants your soul.
When Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn accepted the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1971, he reminded his audience that authoritarian regimes cannot live without lies. They also try to destroy, brutalize, terrorize and compromise all who get in their way. What can one person do against such terror and injustice? At times the only weapon may be simply: 'not through me. Let the lie triumph, but not through my actions or passivity. I refuse to play a part.'
These prosecutors are front-line witnesses to the courage a clear conscience often requires. Let us praise and honor them for their integrity, patriotism and refusal to opt for greed or cowardice as a response to perfidy and outrage. May their example inspire us all.
This is so eloquent. The true crime of fascism is its inhumane cruelty and the vicious desire to morally tear people in two by requiring morally impossible choices. A Sophie's Choice, if you will. Too bad our elected representatives lack this kind of insight and the courage to stand up to the perpetrators.
Thank you so much from those of us who are not lawyers and have never worked as prosecutors. When we read about events like these happening, it helps to have someone explain so clearly what is happening and why.
Presumably, Bove is licensed to practice law in New York? How do his actions not constitute professional misconduct for which he can be disciplined by the Appellate Division of the Supreme Court of New York?
All citizens in the state of New York realize this is a shakedown by the DOJ. Will Hochel let the bullying continue? It will be state by state bullying if someone doesn't take a stand --she has the power!
"According to those present at the meeting, Bove gave the prosecutors a deadline of one hour to provide him with the names of two attorneys who would sign the motion to dismiss the Adams case. After much discussion, Edward Sullivan and Antoinette Bacon agreed to sign the motion. Sullivan reportedly agreed to sign in an act of loyalty to his colleagues, doing so in part to save them from being fired for disagreeing with the directive."
The threat against the prosecutors - that either someone come forward and do the job, or all of the prosecutors would suffer - I was reminded of those WW II movies where an entire village is herded together - and either ordered to give up the one resistance person - or the entire village would suffer.
That's what you get when you give dictators power.
It's also what you get when a political party totally abrogates it's duty to the Constitution. Trump (as usual) claims he knows nothing about the quid pro quo deal with Adams.
[Bovine Excrement.] Trump knew. He ordered it. This "so-called" deal with Adams is NO DIFFERENT than his attempt to strong-arm Volodymyr Zelenskyy in 2019, resulting in Trump's first impeachment.
This corrupt deal with Adams should result in Trump's THIRD impeachment. But it won't. At least not now, not as long as Republicans are in the majority, hiding under their desks and seats in the Capitol (like they did on January 6th), quaking in fear of Trump and his threats against them.
There is only ONE acceptable outcome for this entire squalid affair - that we end the Republican Party and it's tenacious hold on our country. Our country finally has the moral stench of an outhouse from what they have done, starting over four decades ago and ending up where we are today.
I would like to hear more about the one who did sign the order. If he did it to prevent others from facing the prospect of either sign this or be fired, that is a story I would like to know more about. In all these horrible stories, the destruction of USAID and the Consumer Protection Bureau, the dismemberment of the FBI, these inexperienced Trump lackeys are pissing off the wrong people.
One would hope that the brave actions of these prosecutors would give pause to Bondi and Bove in the future before they issue orders to act against the rule of law. With Bondi and Bove, tho, the lesson is unlikely to be learned. Meanwhile, Hochul should act, or NYC should throw Adam’s out and elect an honest mayor.
The strategy of resignation does not thwart the criminal intent. It's courageous, noble, and heroic, but it does not stop it. And that's what needs to be addressed. There is no counterforce. Leverage lives in leadership which is totally absent.
We are seeing our system of justice dismantled case by case as a few remaining prosecutors will knuckle under to the demands of the agenda-driven U.S. Attorney General. The seven prosecutors who removed themselves wouldn't bend their principles and should be respected for so doing.
Those 7 prosecutors deserve the respect and gratitude of every single American. They each made a significant personal sacrifice to defend the rule of law, and their actions serve as inspiration for the rest of us. May we all be as brave in the days ahead.
Why has NY Gov. Hochul not fired Adams?
I think she needs to be comfortable doing so, based on the law, especially because it's never been done before. There are ramifications for her doing it, not only for her as an individual, but for the people of New York State, who will without doubt be hit hard by whatever retributive acts this regime dreams up.
Watch her news conference from today 2/20! It is a whole court action thing that she has to file, oversee & be the judge of! Can take years!
Fascism cannot exist by itself or be imposed simply by true-believing zealots. It seeks co-optation and acquiescence from those whose only weapons sometimes are simply to say "not through me." This is where we are. It's a place well-known to Germans and Italians of conscience during the 1930s, to the Indian satyagrahis following Gandhi's adherence to a moral fight for independence from Britain, familiar to Soviet refuseniks and dissidents of the 1970s, to all those asked to comply with kangaroo systems of justice and lies that damage both the speaker and the listener. The regime will not leave you be --- it wants you to sign on the dotted line, it wants your soul.
When Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn accepted the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1971, he reminded his audience that authoritarian regimes cannot live without lies. They also try to destroy, brutalize, terrorize and compromise all who get in their way. What can one person do against such terror and injustice? At times the only weapon may be simply: 'not through me. Let the lie triumph, but not through my actions or passivity. I refuse to play a part.'
These prosecutors are front-line witnesses to the courage a clear conscience often requires. Let us praise and honor them for their integrity, patriotism and refusal to opt for greed or cowardice as a response to perfidy and outrage. May their example inspire us all.
This is so eloquent. The true crime of fascism is its inhumane cruelty and the vicious desire to morally tear people in two by requiring morally impossible choices. A Sophie's Choice, if you will. Too bad our elected representatives lack this kind of insight and the courage to stand up to the perpetrators.
Thank you so much from those of us who are not lawyers and have never worked as prosecutors. When we read about events like these happening, it helps to have someone explain so clearly what is happening and why.
Presumably, Bove is licensed to practice law in New York? How do his actions not constitute professional misconduct for which he can be disciplined by the Appellate Division of the Supreme Court of New York?
All citizens in the state of New York realize this is a shakedown by the DOJ. Will Hochel let the bullying continue? It will be state by state bullying if someone doesn't take a stand --she has the power!
"According to those present at the meeting, Bove gave the prosecutors a deadline of one hour to provide him with the names of two attorneys who would sign the motion to dismiss the Adams case. After much discussion, Edward Sullivan and Antoinette Bacon agreed to sign the motion. Sullivan reportedly agreed to sign in an act of loyalty to his colleagues, doing so in part to save them from being fired for disagreeing with the directive."
The threat against the prosecutors - that either someone come forward and do the job, or all of the prosecutors would suffer - I was reminded of those WW II movies where an entire village is herded together - and either ordered to give up the one resistance person - or the entire village would suffer.
That's what you get when you give dictators power.
It's also what you get when a political party totally abrogates it's duty to the Constitution. Trump (as usual) claims he knows nothing about the quid pro quo deal with Adams.
[Bovine Excrement.] Trump knew. He ordered it. This "so-called" deal with Adams is NO DIFFERENT than his attempt to strong-arm Volodymyr Zelenskyy in 2019, resulting in Trump's first impeachment.
This corrupt deal with Adams should result in Trump's THIRD impeachment. But it won't. At least not now, not as long as Republicans are in the majority, hiding under their desks and seats in the Capitol (like they did on January 6th), quaking in fear of Trump and his threats against them.
There is only ONE acceptable outcome for this entire squalid affair - that we end the Republican Party and it's tenacious hold on our country. Our country finally has the moral stench of an outhouse from what they have done, starting over four decades ago and ending up where we are today.
There are heroes among us still.
I would like to hear more about the one who did sign the order. If he did it to prevent others from facing the prospect of either sign this or be fired, that is a story I would like to know more about. In all these horrible stories, the destruction of USAID and the Consumer Protection Bureau, the dismemberment of the FBI, these inexperienced Trump lackeys are pissing off the wrong people.
One would hope that the brave actions of these prosecutors would give pause to Bondi and Bove in the future before they issue orders to act against the rule of law. With Bondi and Bove, tho, the lesson is unlikely to be learned. Meanwhile, Hochul should act, or NYC should throw Adam’s out and elect an honest mayor.
The strategy of resignation does not thwart the criminal intent. It's courageous, noble, and heroic, but it does not stop it. And that's what needs to be addressed. There is no counterforce. Leverage lives in leadership which is totally absent.
We are seeing our system of justice dismantled case by case as a few remaining prosecutors will knuckle under to the demands of the agenda-driven U.S. Attorney General. The seven prosecutors who removed themselves wouldn't bend their principles and should be respected for so doing.
I wish Edward Sullivan and Antoinette Bacon would have quit too.
All of these people deserve our respect.
I think they all should have resigned.