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Meg's avatar

Good to hear the background. And good for you for leaving. Its not the same paper I’ve been reading for decades. Your word is your truth.

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pts's avatar

Prof K: Good move. Indeed, no regrets -- a good aspirational goal in life in general. I had been wondering why you stayed at NYT as long as you did. The Gray Lady has been dead for a long time. Very glad you'll be appearing on The Contrarian from time to time.

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Gary's avatar

As a previous subscriber to both the NYT and WAPO, I am delighted to see two of my favorites, Paul Krugman and Jen Rubin, here on Substack. Unleashed opinions from knowledgeable editorialists work best here. Mr. Krugman is a truly professional economist with valuable insights.

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Stephen ONeill's avatar

My reasons for the same decision, precisely.

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Sandy K.'s avatar

I unsubscribed from NYT after 30 years and WaPo after several too. I am now a paid subscribe to The Contrarian.

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Gail's avatar

I am not actually "delighted," because I would prefer that papers with a wide distribution have as many as possible brilliant contributors. I am glad to read them here, but sad that they have felt the (justified) need to leave their long-time homes.

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Leo's avatar

Me too. Thanks

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Kent Myers's avatar

I guess I was one of those insensitive frogs who slowly froze while reading WAPO and NYT. I see that my two favorites are now unleashed, Krugman and Rubin. I jumped today and subscribed to Contrarian.

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LaurieOregon's avatar

America, led by a wealthy and powerful ruling class, is slip-sliding backwards into 1930's Germany - only with endless financial, media, and political resources. And now, a private militia for Trump and his accomplices.

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Save Our Country's avatar

A return to the Gilded Age! This time the wealthy are vastly more wealthy and can cause worldwide devastation. Let's hope "We The People" can reclaim our democracy with another "French Revolution." United we stand, divided we fall.

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Ann Feild's avatar

And you can bet these new Robber Barons aren’t endowing libraries, universities, and art museums….

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Steven Omand's avatar

A goodly proportion of “We the people” are woefully uninformed/misinformed. ☹️

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Ann Feild's avatar

Willful ignorance

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Steven Omand's avatar

In part, but also a Commercial Media Industrial Complex that prioritizes profits over seeking out and reporting truth that matters for our “Republic”.

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John Ranta's avatar

For a while now the NYT has felt hesitant, and scared. Every story or opinion piece that is critical of Trump includes a dose of “what-aboutism” for “balance”. The comments section is watered down, and much more pro-Trump. Which is on top of having some very weak writers in the stable. Bret Stephens? Friedman? Douthat? Dowd? How do these people keep their jobs? Their writing is mediocre and predictable, their opinions are insipid and poorly defended. I canceled my WaPo subscription in November. I am debating doing the same with the NYT. In any case, welcome to The Contrarian!

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Matt McCaffrey's avatar

Dowd lost my eyes when she decided the best thing to do after Biden withdrew from the race was to pile on in the cattiest way possible. A clever, articulate, tragically lost soul.

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John Ranta's avatar

Dowd’s only device is snark. If she ever was insightful, or relevant, she’s lost that. Just snarls and claws now…

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Dr J's Sanity Space's avatar

💯💯💯

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Andy Reed's avatar

She's been doing that for 30 years. It began with snide remarks about Dubya, but when the Clintons arrived in DC she went all out. Way beyond snide, or snark, to dishonestly nasty. And she's maintained the irritating voice against Obama and Biden -- but never against a Republican.

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Joan Kripke's avatar

Yes. And she never ends a column. It’s as if she had too much snark and not enough space and she just copped off the conclusion. Not how I was taught to write. Oh, then there is the “ Kevin problem.”

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Matt McCaffrey's avatar

Abdicating her column once a year to give her retrograde brother a platform is an awful idea that I've never understood. If the little wingnut wants a column he should get his own. She could still ghost-write it for him. (I understand there's a number of openings at the WaPo… ;) )

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Rena's avatar

What you said, Andy!

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Rena's avatar

Oh, Dowd lost me with her coverage of the run-up to the 2000 election, and absolutely nailed that loss (I would occasionally glance at her columns) with her coverage of Hillary (I swore she had a thing about Bill and was jealous of Hillary) and Obama - who she routinely called "Barry."

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Joan Kripke's avatar

And still does.

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Anne Gayler's avatar

Ii have loathed her ever since she went after Hillary Clinton....for no reason I could see except envy. Dowd helped lead us down the path we're on now.

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Pam Robinson's avatar

I wrote headlines for a living for many, many years, and continue to run a local news site. I have never understood the weak, often off-point headlines, especially on the main page of nytimes.com I keep thinking that they're trying to write for the grand sweep of history, avoiding conclusions, etc., but they are definitely going down another path these days. It probably doesn't help that they eliminated most of their copy desk operations a few years ago, meaning the standalone operations made up of people whose whole job was to ensure the fairness of stories and headlines.

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DW's avatar

I think they write them with the assumption that people won't read the article. Very often the headline has implications contrary to the content of the article.

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Pam Robinson's avatar

AGreed, though I suspect it's an inability to capture the essence of a story. It's not as easy as people think. Too often the headlines seem as if they're written without having read the story.

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Anne Gayler's avatar

If you want to view deceitful headlines, try the Washington Post.

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Sam Maruca's avatar

Stephens is a disgrace.

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Terri Smith's avatar

I am always hoping Gail will smack him hard in their duo column but she never does.

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Sam Maruca's avatar

Wouldn’t get through the mamby-pamby editors at the NYT.

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Matthew Dance's avatar

Because the *entire point* of their conversation “column” is false equivalence. If she smacks him upside the head, that point is undermined.

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Alison Case's avatar

The requirement that they both flatter each other constantly also sickens me.

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Terri Smith's avatar

Father Douthat is always good for the weirdest religious takes ever.

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Larry N Letich's avatar

I'm glad you wrote this, Terri. It's funny -- I have often read Douthat's column, just because I was a loyal Times op-ed reader and he wasn't a standard water-bearer for the right. But when I think about it, his columns come from such a weird angle. He relates everything in the world to the breakdown of some Catholic moral order that never existed in America and nobody wants. And he sticks to that theme over and over and over again. I recall how he wrote an op-ed piece either right before or early on in Trump's first term, imagining that Trump would be a game-changer for good in America, breaking both left- and right-wing orthodoxies. If he ever had met Trump or paid attention to the world as it was, not the world as he thought it should be, he would have known this was a ridiculous fantasy. But somehow his ability to keep writing these 800-word opinion pieces keeps him employed on the Times editorial page, even though they have no basis in reality.

To save my sanity I haven't been reading the Times or WaPo editorial pages and columns the last three months, which used to be almost a daily habit. Maybe it's time to drop my subscriptions.

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Pam Robinson's avatar

The Times has to have the weakest editorial page team of any major publication in the country. Though they generally refuse to publish my comments on the quality of their team, I take a certain pleasure at mocking their tired little conversations with themselves that we are apparently supposed to find amusing and clever. All of them, supposed liberals and whatever the rest are, should leave and be replaced by fresh, intelligent voices.

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Virginia Gibbs's avatar

Like you, Pam, I have writen letters criticizing their misleading headlines & foolish conversations with themselves, that we are supposed to learn something from,

and never had one published.

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Virginia Gibbs's avatar

I can’t agree with your criticism of Tom Friedman. His thoughtful analysis of the Middle East tinderbox are brilliant pieces of journalism. The other 3 are a waste of space!

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John Ranta's avatar

Friedman is naive and shallow. His breathless, sunny enthusiasm is usually off the mark.

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SUSANNE SOMMER's avatar

I’ve never forgiven Friedman for backing the Iraq war.

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Rena's avatar

" Their writing is mediocre and predictable, their opinions are insipid and poorly defended." You answered your own question about how these people have kept their jobs. Sadly.

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Stanley Krute's avatar

Sorry, but Tom Friedman is a remarkable writer, with decades of experience, and the wisdom honed therefrom.

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Anne Gayler's avatar

You won't miss the Times. I quit it when they went after Obama. Quit WaPo this year. I believe independent journalism will become powerful and widely read in a few years. Not everyone in this country is a dolt.

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Richard Walden's avatar

First my beloved WaPo and now the NYT, now committing ritual harakiri. I'm soldiering on with the Contrarian and MSNBC. A very special "eff you" to that smug SOB Bezos.

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Greenjeans1's avatar

Mr. Krugman not only expresses fact-based opinion, he does so elegantly.

Subscribers, please turn your friends and colleagues on to this Substack.

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Terri Smith's avatar

The Times loss. Charles Blow has also left.

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John Ranta's avatar

Blow left? Good for him. Where is he now?

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John Ranta's avatar

I googled Blow. He’s taking a fellowship at Harvard.

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Terri Smith's avatar

I am sure Charles was being stifled at the Times. He really pushes MAGA buttons. He gets so much hate. Now if Pamela Paul would just leave. I can’t stand her!

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Janet West's avatar

"an internal memo announced that Pamela Paul and Charles M. Blow would soon stop writing their columns."

https://www.cjr.org/analysis/paul-krugman-leaving-new-york-times-heavy-hand-editing-less-frequent-columns-newsletter.php

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Terri Smith's avatar

She will not be missed. She never had anything original or interesting to say and was drifting ever rightward.

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DW's avatar

I knew her from the book review podcast. What a drone

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Marlene Lerner-Bigley (CA)'s avatar

I adore Charles Blow! I hope he can be convinced to join this site from time to time.

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GariRae's avatar

Ohhhh...Blow left...OMG.

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Gary S.'s avatar

Thank you for this context. More and more of your NY Times readers have found you on SubStack and now in The Contrarian. Word of mouth sells!

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Attapork's avatar

Any chance of you joining the Contrarian as a regular columnist?

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Atomfemme's avatar

I think he already did.

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Brian Frink's avatar

I’m struggling to decide to cancel my long held subscription or not. Sigh…I’ve read the NYT’s for many years.

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Dana's avatar

I am also struggling with my decision. I’ve been a subscriber for many years - and actually, my parents have subscribed for decades. It was delivered every day - so we are going way back. It’s just so unbelievable to me that The NY Times has changed into … this. Sigh.

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Harry Lewiston's avatar

The New York Times decided to get rid of Biden after the fall of Afghanistan. The Times had been warned to leave the country, but they felt their work was too important. Then when the inevitable chaos happened, they were pissed.

This is not conjecture. I worked there from 2021 to 2023 and was present at the all-hands meeting when the first stone was cast against Biden. It was all downhill from there.

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bcwbcw bcwbcw's avatar

Just want to point out that if you have a home delivery subscription, there is nothing to keep you from an infinite number of successive six-month "Vacation Holds" during which you can read online. I supported "journalism" at the NY Times for forty years but the decisions by the latest Sulzberger failson were just too much, nine years ago.

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Anne Gayler's avatar

NY Times and WaPo are to me like a beloved spouse whom you have caught lying. Lying with a straight face. Best to acknowledge the betrayal and move on.

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Marta's avatar

My son saved me that decision: he cancelled the NYT the day after the 1500+ pardon and the NYT‘s mild coverage of it.

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Pauline Wightman's avatar

I am also trying to decide—mainly because of the games—i gave up on “mainstream” news with the election

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Dr. Judith Schlesinger's avatar

I heard you can Google the games and play without subscribing. Is that true?

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Mimi Michalski's avatar

Yes. You can still play Wordle and Connections and Strands without being a subscriber. Spelling Bee, however, will only let you get to "solid" and then won't let you work your way up to Queen Bee without subscribing. But I find I don't even miss Spelling Bee as long as I have the others.

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Dr. Judith Schlesinger's avatar

OK, Mimi, I did it. I cancelled the NYT subscription (at $300 a year). I read what you said about being capped at "solid," and instead subscribed ONLY to the games, for $1.50 per month!!!

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Dr. Judith Schlesinger's avatar

Actually, depending on where you look they are charging a lot more. I think I may have to give them all up. ?

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Mimi Michalski's avatar

Excellent! I don't miss Spelling Bee now that I haven't been doing it anymore. I was a little too obsessive about it to begin with; I cheated by looking up words until I got Queen Bee! ;-)

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Dr. Judith Schlesinger's avatar

I still do it. I can swing $1.50 per month, I think!

You are funny. Cheating at Spelling Bee. lolol!!!!

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Dawn's avatar

I left when Judith Miller was their star.

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Kathleen Dennis's avatar

I'm going through the same quandary. I've quit reading most of the news they report because it seems biased or incomplete. However my husband does the daily wordle with many of our family members and I use the NYT cooking website offered regularly. That's the struggle.

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Irma Wolfson's avatar

You can subscribe to the NYT Cooking site separately.

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Harry Lewiston's avatar

haha, when I was at the Times, I worked on the Cooking side of things. There are a lot of good reporters still at the Times, however none of them write for the national news beat, or the political news beat, or serve as editors. The arts and international coverage are also to be lauded. So a good approach is to not read anything on the front page of the paper or the website.

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nacreplus2's avatar

There are Wordle puzzles available elsewhere online. Just do a DuckDuckGo search and pick one.

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Amy Rubin's avatar

I left decades ago but I have online access through my library. It’s much less frustrating to read when I’m not supporting them directly.

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Dogmother2's avatar

Ditto. But no more. Losing Crossword has been the hardest thing, actually. Also, Wordle (a little;)

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Wendy Shelley's avatar

Just purchase a book of crosswords by NYT or the LA Times. You’ll quickly find relief and won’t miss the daily paper at all! 🤗

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JMcLV's avatar

It's a matter of time before WAPO's reporting (which has been very good) goes the way of the opinion section. At this point, if you support them, you're assenting to limitations on freedom of the press.

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Anne Gayler's avatar

You may have to bite off your leg to get out of this trap, but you'll live. Otherwise, those who set the trap will lunch on you.

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Roxanne Donahey's avatar

And by unsubscribing The Times you will cause it to fail and end up with another broligarch owning it. Sorry, I may not like what the two newspapers are doing to try to survive, but I’d rather not end up giving tRUMP another win against his “enemies”.

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Val Schaffner's avatar

Well, a broligarch already does own it, essentially, along with his family. When bro’s dad inherited the paper, he at least listened to older, more experienced people on the staff. It was said of him that he “never made the same mistake three times.” Broligarch the younger is making the same mistake ad infinitum.

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Leo's avatar

Understood, Roxanne. But I agree with Robert K on this one. Continuing our subscriptions validates the Times’s sane washing and clean ups of Trump and the Repub’s deliberate destruction of American Democracy. The Times and WaPo have lost their way.

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Anne Gayler's avatar

So who owns it now? A non-profit? The owners of the Times are in it for the money and they know which way the wind is blowing. They'll do whatever they must to stay in business, even if it means contributing to the downfall of this country. The very wealthy can simply skip away when the going gets rough.

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Greenmatter25's avatar

Legacy media is entrenched in the past, struggling to be relevsnt in an era of extreme political correctness based on fear and the pursuit of profit. I suspect that in addition to fear of backlash from Trump's goons, they mostly fear losing their legacy advertisers. It's a loss for the nation, as the print press has sustained our democracy for over two centuries. But times have changed and, sadly, the stakes are higher. Welcome, and long live the independent voices on Substack which now accounts for almost all of my news and information budget.

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Harry Lewiston's avatar

What do you mean by legacy media? I find that term to be meaningless, because web news isn't any better. I prefer the term "corporate media", which includes anyone that makes a lot of money off the news. I have found non-profit and low-profit news sources to be better.

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HD Capps's avatar

I wondered what was going on when the newsletter suddenly and rather abruptly ended. Plus, some of the later columns seemed to be a bit "off" from previous years.

As someone who among other things did a stint as a senior strategic analyst in DOD, longtime news junkie dating back to high school. The Krugman columns at the time of the Gulf War were spot on, very much reflecting the sort of quite unpopular analysis that I was providing to the leadership -- which would apparently lead to my retirement from the Army in mid-2003.

The recent shifts at NYT and WaPo have not inspired much in the way of confidence that the God Emperor Trump and the MAGAts will get much in the way of pushback from either one of the papers. That so many established voices are being kicked to the curb from these two papers suggests that guts are indeed in short supply -- so much for the now mythology of Watergate and speaking up to power...

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Paul A. Brewer's avatar

Thanks Paul, well done and well stated!

Thank you for your commitment and courage!

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Lynn Swisher's avatar

Good for you, Paul Krugman! And thank you for continuing to inform and educate the public in these very trying times. Welcome to The Contrarian!

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Karen Elizabeth Garthe's avatar

Really interesting and thank you for your personal experience/insight into what has happened to this paper that has declined so precipitously. NYT supported re-election of trump more by what it did not say than by what it did...by shoving pieces on Biden or Harris to the outback, putting trump on front page for better or worse. Always. It was editorially cunning, totally shocking to me. I've been reading the Times everyday my whole adult life. Today, I suspended delivery, baby steps on breaking a long habit. Who can face this much wanton destruction first thing in the morning? Substacks will inform me. I just read in de Tocqueville's Democracy in America what happens when barbarians conquer civilizations. Page 401 in the Bantam paperback.

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Martian2024's avatar

You just summarized my thoughts! Now we need to have Wordle here too 😉

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Linda S's avatar

Yes!!! Lol!!

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David's avatar

I was hoping the NYT would avoid this kind of oppression of free expression from a superbly informed economist opinion writer - sad. But we could see over this past year during the election campaign how the NYT jumped all over Biden for every slurred word or gaffe while giving Trump a pass on some of his most egregious statements and actions - all toned down or not even confronted. The legacy media is partly responsible for helping Trump regain power - and they'll pay for it dearly as we all will - that is those of us who give a hot damn about our democracy - or what's left of it. Glad you're here on The Contrarian, Prof Krugman!!

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Robot Bender's avatar

I left WAPO the day Bezos changed the policy of endorsing candidates. I left NYT (as much as I miss the crosswords) when they watered down the Trump pieces. 🖕 to them both.

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