Just wait until these fools get Shingles when they get older. There's a vaccination for Shingles, which I'm sure these fools will not get and will suffer greatly for it.
Thom Tillis recently said he voted for Jr. because Senator Bill Cassidy said "let's see what happens". I wonder if GOP Senators are ready to impeach these clowns, yet.
They won't be until a few of their grandkids get the pneumonia or die from it, and then they'll still have to convince the other GOP senators that they should change the policy of that lunatic.
Well Nick, reactivating herpes zoster virus from their dorsal root ganglia would be a fitting voodoo pin stuck in all the MAGATs facial nerve as karmic retribution for their stupidity. But what about the kids? There's an HPV vaccine too. It works really well to prevent genital warts and cervical carcinoma. Guess what JFKJr and his cabal of anti-vaxers are gonna do next? Project2025, page 451, how to prevent your child from having sex before marriage? Just don't vaccinate.
There's got to be a special place in the rotting, slimy underworld for those with such a perverse and willfully ignorant disregard for the wellbeing of others, especially children, women, immigrants, and the poor. But WE have to deal with them in THIS world. If we fail to address and solve this "murder by conspiracy theories" problem, we are as guilty of deliberate gross negligence as they are. Mr. R.F.K. Jr. and friends belong FAR, FAR from any sort of influence on health care...or anything else, for that matter.
Dante’s Devine Comedy pegged the slimy underworld quite well 900 yrs ago. Not much has really changed, especially murder by conspiracy theories. When the pens turn into pitchforks, there will be blood.
Let's also note that failure to vaccinate right now is also due to stupidly accepting what known liars say. "Vaccine skeptic" equals idiot. Don't listen to idiots who lie.
My father survived polio in the previous century and went on to become a doctor. This is the trend of science and truth that people--parents, nonparents, and even children--need to follow. Not some quack who surrounds himself with quacks who was hired by a known liar. For the record.
Our family is dealing with a MAGA, anti-vaccine family member by acting as though all is well and right with the family, except for politics which isn't discussed.
This family member's refusal to get a COVID vaccine meant that she couldn't see her grandson until he was almost 6 months old and able to get COVID protection.
I'll continue to go along with the "all is good" family plan but a part of me is really angry. I respect others rights to think what they want - be good crazy - but those rights stop at the health of me and the public. The preventable horrible diseases. Back again because of these crazies!
I agree, and pregnant women and over 50% of kids who had to be hospitalized were “ low risk “— but he made policy unilaterally without the usual scientific process.
What will compound this enormously is the fact that they are trying to keep the CDC from reporting numbers on these cases to the public, and for all I know (hard to keep up with all the madness), they are trying to keep cases of any and all communicable diseases from being counted by the CDC to begin with, much less released to us. This means when it shows up on our doorsteps, we won't be prepared for it. What could possibly go wrong?
Imagine COVID-19 picking up again because of lack of vaccines and the people who are in charge of public health not giving a damn about it and not letting us know we could be headed back to an epidemic of it. I don't say "pandemic," because it seems unlikely any other country in the world would intentionally let their people be subject to that again.
Between this and the continual authoritarian crushing of human rights, especially with immigration, why would anyone want to come to the U.S. who didn't have to be here?
The pediatricians are the last opinion since the vaccines are given in their office. A public campaign can motivate parents to go to their office or health dept and get this under control.
I have been vaccinated at least twice for measles. Once that I know of as a child and again before I started college. At two jobs I had in a hospital I had an antibody titer to confirm immunity to measles. The titers both came back positive. I’m still here and no autism and no other ill effects. I vaccine my pets and they are healthy too. No good reason to not vaccinate kids unless they have a severe allergy to an ingredient in a vaccine. Even then there might be ways to mitigate certain types of reactions to vaccines. It’s at least worth talking to a medical professional about.
Good point; how many of these people vaccinate their pets? I have cared for dozens of animals that were all vaccinated as recommended over the years. All lived out their full life spans in good health. Every human I know who was vaccinated also stayed healthy. Coincidence? No. Science.
We already know that the ignorant Trump administration will not turn about to support medical and scientific truths. And that there are too many coddled and ignorant parents who will not vaccinate their children, and too many public schools which caved in to these parents wishes to not vaccinated their children. So who will pick up the necessary job of stopping these preventable illnesses and promoting largely safe vaccinations to the public?
I love in Canada, moved here in 1976. I have family in the US that I try to visit every year. My husband is an organ transplant recipient so he has no immune system. I guess I am going to have to try to find out the incidence of measles and other highly contagious diseases before we travel together to see my family. It’ll be like travelling to what we once called “third world countries.”
Anyone who catches measles or has any family member who's caught it should sue RFK and TACO immediately. Since their false and now obviously dangerous statements have been DEBUNKED over and over, there's plenty of evidence for any court.
We can hope in the meantime that measles hits both of their families and friends.
I am sorry. Most US residents/citizens know that vaccines are needed, but with a disease as contagious as measles, a relatively few anti-vaxxers can create and sustain outbreaks that put people with compromised immune systems in grave danger.
Some people (not you two Merlin and Anne) just do not understand that science is
never ever 100%. That why it is called science. Progressing insight, learning, adaptation.
What was "true" a thousand years ago is not "true" now (sickness does not come from being possessed by some devil).
What is "true" now will be "not true" a thousand years from now (drinking bleach does cure COVID?)
It is the old "PDCA" cycle..... plan (hypothesis) - do (experiment, learn) - check (antithesis) - act (synthesis and plan forward).... after which rinse and repeat ad infinitum. (this is called "learning")
I'm more then happy with 99,9% security and even +90% security when on the other side you have 100% chance of misery.
Nothing is 100% except..... dying. Just ask "senator" Ernst for she's an expert in this field.
Read Hanya Yanagihara's terrifying dystopian On Paradise that shows the potential results of recurrent pandemics, lack of faith in medical science, repealing climate change initiative and authoritarian government on our future society
This in from the wonderful Your Local Epidemiologist (yle) substack. "97% of Democrats, 88% of Republicans, and 84% of MAGA supporters expressed support (for vaccination ). in a March 2025 poll. How can those Rs support RFK the Lesser and his idiocy?
All because an elected convicted felon decided to put a road-kill eater with a brain worm who loves to swim in contaminated waters in charge of "health".
What could possible go wrong?
Ask the AI robot and see what the machine tells you (as most of us have abandoned the "do your own research" mindset)
We are not standing on the precipice of the twins, prejudice and fear; we are wading in their dark muck.
Something “lower,” but quite brilliantly reptilian as evolution tells it, moves our frightened limbs towards dry land, or a distant shore — “telling” us that shore must be “there.” The lizard urge towards something stable under our feet becomes true north.
After all, that is how we emerged from the waters anciently. Tiktaalik of Ellesmere.
“Nothing holds at the center.” In, and at, our center, there is nothing — perhaps a hint of dark matter? Certainly no pointer, no compass, only many voices clamoring to be heard.
None dare listen, the din is too loud.
A collective, loud unconscious of the confused, with none to gavel down the hoarse, yelled cacophony.
In our household, we have cancer. We walk in “Cancer Land,” as one oncohealer calls it.
And that is our “it.”
A compass, and a matrix. When someone dressed in a lab coat tells you, “You have cancer,” things change at slow, lightning speed. You/we no longer have time for BS.
Our compass is a tumor whose “center” seeks a symmetry that may never come as it — devoid of limiting signal — crashes, and rushes ahead to grow, grow, grow, with no orient, no true north — no nothing.
An alien, as one oncologist insists on calling it? Or something that is only all too earthly?
And this greed to grow leaves death in its hungry wake.
Is nature, as James Jones wrote, at war with itself, madly gnawing away at its entrails? How lights the dark parasite of evil on our souls, sucking dry the marrow of a better remembrance, a better vision of what we might have been as a race?
If we had no will, no intention towards anything, would the jagged toothed leach still need to grab hold of us? Would it still crave our fear, would it still crouch and wait for us every moment?
What is the name of this parasite: that we may know it and mock it, as it mocks and sneers at us? Or is it a constant changeling walking behind us, a protean intelligence that, facing us, makes fun and bullies, whilst behind us it speaks in dulcet, silvery tones to conflict and confuse what sensibility we have left to us? Is two, or one?
Is its face the Dunwich horror, or the Venus de Milo? Or both?
Or are we — all of us, for all time — looking only in a mirror whence our reflection is that of a collective Dorian Gray?
Did something crawl out of an ancient (now Arctic) ocean for us only to see forlorn wisps of what we might have become?
What do we know?
Can we truly know, can we truly give, compassion and love?
What benefit is all the death and destruction we see nowadays, whom or what does it benefit?
Whom does the death of elders and children benefit, when we have the means to take care of them?
Just wait until these fools get Shingles when they get older. There's a vaccination for Shingles, which I'm sure these fools will not get and will suffer greatly for it.
Thom Tillis recently said he voted for Jr. because Senator Bill Cassidy said "let's see what happens". I wonder if GOP Senators are ready to impeach these clowns, yet.
They won't be until a few of their grandkids get the pneumonia or die from it, and then they'll still have to convince the other GOP senators that they should change the policy of that lunatic.
Well Nick, reactivating herpes zoster virus from their dorsal root ganglia would be a fitting voodoo pin stuck in all the MAGATs facial nerve as karmic retribution for their stupidity. But what about the kids? There's an HPV vaccine too. It works really well to prevent genital warts and cervical carcinoma. Guess what JFKJr and his cabal of anti-vaxers are gonna do next? Project2025, page 451, how to prevent your child from having sex before marriage? Just don't vaccinate.
There's got to be a special place in the rotting, slimy underworld for those with such a perverse and willfully ignorant disregard for the wellbeing of others, especially children, women, immigrants, and the poor. But WE have to deal with them in THIS world. If we fail to address and solve this "murder by conspiracy theories" problem, we are as guilty of deliberate gross negligence as they are. Mr. R.F.K. Jr. and friends belong FAR, FAR from any sort of influence on health care...or anything else, for that matter.
Dante’s Devine Comedy pegged the slimy underworld quite well 900 yrs ago. Not much has really changed, especially murder by conspiracy theories. When the pens turn into pitchforks, there will be blood.
Let's also note that failure to vaccinate right now is also due to stupidly accepting what known liars say. "Vaccine skeptic" equals idiot. Don't listen to idiots who lie.
My father survived polio in the previous century and went on to become a doctor. This is the trend of science and truth that people--parents, nonparents, and even children--need to follow. Not some quack who surrounds himself with quacks who was hired by a known liar. For the record.
Thank you Secretary Nesbit.
Our family is dealing with a MAGA, anti-vaccine family member by acting as though all is well and right with the family, except for politics which isn't discussed.
This family member's refusal to get a COVID vaccine meant that she couldn't see her grandson until he was almost 6 months old and able to get COVID protection.
I'll continue to go along with the "all is good" family plan but a part of me is really angry. I respect others rights to think what they want - be good crazy - but those rights stop at the health of me and the public. The preventable horrible diseases. Back again because of these crazies!
Under RFK’s new guidance, a 6 month old baby is not eligible for a COVID vaccine, despite the high risk of COVID in infants
Jan, that is so horrible.
I agree, and pregnant women and over 50% of kids who had to be hospitalized were “ low risk “— but he made policy unilaterally without the usual scientific process.
What will compound this enormously is the fact that they are trying to keep the CDC from reporting numbers on these cases to the public, and for all I know (hard to keep up with all the madness), they are trying to keep cases of any and all communicable diseases from being counted by the CDC to begin with, much less released to us. This means when it shows up on our doorsteps, we won't be prepared for it. What could possibly go wrong?
Imagine COVID-19 picking up again because of lack of vaccines and the people who are in charge of public health not giving a damn about it and not letting us know we could be headed back to an epidemic of it. I don't say "pandemic," because it seems unlikely any other country in the world would intentionally let their people be subject to that again.
Between this and the continual authoritarian crushing of human rights, especially with immigration, why would anyone want to come to the U.S. who didn't have to be here?
With you, friend. It's nice to hear a sane voice in the wilderness :)
I wish all of the foreign athletes who had ANY kind of event here, large or small, would boycott.
The pediatricians are the last opinion since the vaccines are given in their office. A public campaign can motivate parents to go to their office or health dept and get this under control.
Thank you.
Well said.
I have been vaccinated at least twice for measles. Once that I know of as a child and again before I started college. At two jobs I had in a hospital I had an antibody titer to confirm immunity to measles. The titers both came back positive. I’m still here and no autism and no other ill effects. I vaccine my pets and they are healthy too. No good reason to not vaccinate kids unless they have a severe allergy to an ingredient in a vaccine. Even then there might be ways to mitigate certain types of reactions to vaccines. It’s at least worth talking to a medical professional about.
Good point; how many of these people vaccinate their pets? I have cared for dozens of animals that were all vaccinated as recommended over the years. All lived out their full life spans in good health. Every human I know who was vaccinated also stayed healthy. Coincidence? No. Science.
We already know that the ignorant Trump administration will not turn about to support medical and scientific truths. And that there are too many coddled and ignorant parents who will not vaccinate their children, and too many public schools which caved in to these parents wishes to not vaccinated their children. So who will pick up the necessary job of stopping these preventable illnesses and promoting largely safe vaccinations to the public?
I love in Canada, moved here in 1976. I have family in the US that I try to visit every year. My husband is an organ transplant recipient so he has no immune system. I guess I am going to have to try to find out the incidence of measles and other highly contagious diseases before we travel together to see my family. It’ll be like travelling to what we once called “third world countries.”
Anyone who catches measles or has any family member who's caught it should sue RFK and TACO immediately. Since their false and now obviously dangerous statements have been DEBUNKED over and over, there's plenty of evidence for any court.
We can hope in the meantime that measles hits both of their families and friends.
Sorry - LIVE in Canada!
I am sorry. Most US residents/citizens know that vaccines are needed, but with a disease as contagious as measles, a relatively few anti-vaxxers can create and sustain outbreaks that put people with compromised immune systems in grave danger.
Why are the 90+% who are vaccinated at risk?
The vaccine is not 100 percent effective.
Some people (not you two Merlin and Anne) just do not understand that science is
never ever 100%. That why it is called science. Progressing insight, learning, adaptation.
What was "true" a thousand years ago is not "true" now (sickness does not come from being possessed by some devil).
What is "true" now will be "not true" a thousand years from now (drinking bleach does cure COVID?)
It is the old "PDCA" cycle..... plan (hypothesis) - do (experiment, learn) - check (antithesis) - act (synthesis and plan forward).... after which rinse and repeat ad infinitum. (this is called "learning")
I'm more then happy with 99,9% security and even +90% security when on the other side you have 100% chance of misery.
Nothing is 100% except..... dying. Just ask "senator" Ernst for she's an expert in this field.
But that would still be true even if 100% were vaccinated...right?
Read Hanya Yanagihara's terrifying dystopian On Paradise that shows the potential results of recurrent pandemics, lack of faith in medical science, repealing climate change initiative and authoritarian government on our future society
This in from the wonderful Your Local Epidemiologist (yle) substack. "97% of Democrats, 88% of Republicans, and 84% of MAGA supporters expressed support (for vaccination ). in a March 2025 poll. How can those Rs support RFK the Lesser and his idiocy?
"Quarantaine!!!" - "Contagious disease!!!"
All because an elected convicted felon decided to put a road-kill eater with a brain worm who loves to swim in contaminated waters in charge of "health".
What could possible go wrong?
Ask the AI robot and see what the machine tells you (as most of us have abandoned the "do your own research" mindset)
We are not standing on the precipice of the twins, prejudice and fear; we are wading in their dark muck.
Something “lower,” but quite brilliantly reptilian as evolution tells it, moves our frightened limbs towards dry land, or a distant shore — “telling” us that shore must be “there.” The lizard urge towards something stable under our feet becomes true north.
After all, that is how we emerged from the waters anciently. Tiktaalik of Ellesmere.
“Nothing holds at the center.” In, and at, our center, there is nothing — perhaps a hint of dark matter? Certainly no pointer, no compass, only many voices clamoring to be heard.
None dare listen, the din is too loud.
A collective, loud unconscious of the confused, with none to gavel down the hoarse, yelled cacophony.
In our household, we have cancer. We walk in “Cancer Land,” as one oncohealer calls it.
And that is our “it.”
A compass, and a matrix. When someone dressed in a lab coat tells you, “You have cancer,” things change at slow, lightning speed. You/we no longer have time for BS.
Our compass is a tumor whose “center” seeks a symmetry that may never come as it — devoid of limiting signal — crashes, and rushes ahead to grow, grow, grow, with no orient, no true north — no nothing.
An alien, as one oncologist insists on calling it? Or something that is only all too earthly?
And this greed to grow leaves death in its hungry wake.
Is nature, as James Jones wrote, at war with itself, madly gnawing away at its entrails? How lights the dark parasite of evil on our souls, sucking dry the marrow of a better remembrance, a better vision of what we might have been as a race?
If we had no will, no intention towards anything, would the jagged toothed leach still need to grab hold of us? Would it still crave our fear, would it still crouch and wait for us every moment?
What is the name of this parasite: that we may know it and mock it, as it mocks and sneers at us? Or is it a constant changeling walking behind us, a protean intelligence that, facing us, makes fun and bullies, whilst behind us it speaks in dulcet, silvery tones to conflict and confuse what sensibility we have left to us? Is two, or one?
Is its face the Dunwich horror, or the Venus de Milo? Or both?
Or are we — all of us, for all time — looking only in a mirror whence our reflection is that of a collective Dorian Gray?
Did something crawl out of an ancient (now Arctic) ocean for us only to see forlorn wisps of what we might have become?
What do we know?
Can we truly know, can we truly give, compassion and love?
What benefit is all the death and destruction we see nowadays, whom or what does it benefit?
Whom does the death of elders and children benefit, when we have the means to take care of them?
What is that, slouching towards Bethlehem?